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We have all been on their searching every day. Something will turn up eventually, unfortunately we think it is some one who tattoos, they took other things that just led us to believe they were some how in the know. Thanks for the kind words.

Beginning of this month, November 6th or 7th about 15 machines were stolen from our shop. No leads yet so figured I would reach out to anyone in the greater Cleveland area that may have heard anything or bought something that seemed to good to be true. Items to look out for: Roy Rogers rotary with floral design on the canister, Lucky's supply one off nickel plated liner, stamped with a small anchor next to the binding post, one inch coils. Random one offs, one engraved with ''SARAH Cleveland Scum" , two of them built on Glyn Flew Waters frames one has a Seth Ciferri a-bar(says it on the a-bar) the other has a rear coil that is split in the middle from Surreal Customs. Two Workhorse Irons machines, Soba pilot 2011 and Seth Ciferri Owen 2012. Anyone with information please Contact West Anchor Tattoo Via facespace, call or message me through LST. Thanks, Nathan

Yeah sports...

I hate blood suckers and feel bad for them at the same time. They don't understand tattooers or tattoo community, they only care about lining their pockets. I agree with not supporting these places(headshops, trucks or whatever crap shack you can buy a needle)and tell others to do the same. I was in a smoke shop in San Diego this past week and noticed they had some tattoo books, so I was like "cool, these prices are totally reasonable". Then I turned around an saw tattoo supplies. I put my stuff back and walked out. I hate places like that. They have no f*ck!ng clue.

I know it is in Brooklyn, but I would suggest anyone at Smith Street. That's where I would go anyway. You referenced Smith street but Dan S. And Eli do some pretty diverse stuff.

Gross!

Sounds scary and disgusting. I agree with Flores to good to be true.

I say just laugh it off. Probably half the time the people are thinking about that tattoo they wanted when they were young and did not get. So they are just envious of yours. When My wife and I go to the public pool I always come out after her so I have to gaze around till I see her, every time I always think to myself, man why are these people looking at me. Then I remember I have a crap load of tattoos. The stares are funny. Get used to them and laugh.

What is the difference between a person with tattoos and a person without tattoos. The person with tattoos doesn't care if you don't have any. I think I heard that on here before I just thought it applied to this article. To each his own, he has to live with him self, and he will probably die bitter and alone. Having only his poorly written journalism left behind as his mark. Kind of feel sorry for someone so closed minded.

I agree. I had an interview at a shop a couple years ago in the summer. The gentleman were wearing sleeveless shirts and shorts. One guy had a skull cheese work thing on the deltoid the other guy had some little crap on his hands. That's it. I did not take the job strictly based on that. Just felt they were not in it for the same reasons . And the one guy had flip flops on. Nothing against flip flops, they're comfortable and all, I just would not wear them to work.

Thank you for your input.

Hey man this was never about the symbol. And I agree with you on politics having little to do with tattoos. I just wanted some feed back as to whether or not I am being a jerk for refusing to do something I am very capable of doing. It just happened to be a Nazi swastika. And Swastikas were around way before white people. I have seen cuneiform writing with swastika like patterns. Most people however attribute it to Hopi Indians, Buddhist, and India. None of which are white people. I understand the hammer and sickle Stalin thing. Not to well versed on the whole communism thing but I get it. But seriously, comparing a black power fist to a Nazi swastika is reaching. That fist symbolizes empowerment over oppression. It was used to rally for unity and more over safety of black people. If you have any doubt of this read about Cointelpro, War on black America you may change your mind. So that was the first tattoo I had to now turn down. I have not had to do that before, I like the challenge of people bringing in whatever non tattoo able reference and drawing it to make a tattoo. Or using old flash as reference. I have no issues with any ones beliefs, so long as they don't take it to my door step.

Like I said though, the shop he was at before quoted even higher. Like 100 dollars higher. Poor guy may never be able to polish his bigotry. (< sarcasm)

yes, I agree, and like I said lesson learned, in the future I will just be straight up with him. Tell I won't do certain things. It was just the first time it happened to me and I did not think it would happen in a Cleveland Ghetto. Seen a lot covered just not any requests for redoing them. Kind of threw me. But I have my bearing now thanks.

Way to go. Nice way to start things off, and looks great so far.

I won't do faces, I will do head neck and hands but only if they have made their way there.

All right. Let me go over this one last time. I gave him a steep price hoping he would walk. He accepted the price because the shop he was at just before that, quoted even higher. I did not and will not do the tattoo. I also won't do any tattoo that will impact someones life(wearer or viewer)in a negative way. The guy did not show up and did not really set an appointment it was kind of tentative. When and if he comes back I will tell him what I just told to you. Cool pictures by the way,I imagine you have a nice collection going. Thanks for the feed back as well. Everyone has been really helpful on this topic.

And I would tattoo a swastika, if it had absolutely zero Nazi affiliation.

I did not mean to agree, as I said my contingency for this situation was flawed. And if you read the first part of the thread you will have the answer for this question. Again to reiterate; the situation I was in questioning has nothing to do with a symbol. It has to do with me refusing to do something based on my beliefs, and whether or not I am still doing my job or just being a jerk. In the future when I refuse to do thing I do not believe in and the customer becomes angry because of it, they have that right. I can't get mad at them, for being mad at me for refusing to do their tattoo.

Thanks. That is pretty much how I feel I just wanted some reassurance. I played the scenario out in my head, it just didn't go the way I planned. Lesson learned. Rather than beating around the bush I will just say sorry, can't help you with that.

Dan, didn't mean to and was not trying to strike a nerve with the racist thing. My dilemma was whether or not I would be in the right to refuse to tattoo him. And as far as where it comes from. From his perspective... well I doubt that he knows it is a Hopi Indian sign as well as variations appearing in several other cultures before appearing in a George Lanz book and being adopted by Nazi party, thus becoming a symbol for tyranny, genocide and of course racism. He did not show up by the way and like I said, not here to judge, just wondering if I am an asshole for refusing to do something because I don't see things the way a customer does.

I personally want nothing to do with that guy and I hope he doesn't come in. I don't want to put my name or the shop name on his lips.

Thanks man. I am an idiot.

So I have only been out of apprentice status for just under two years. I knew eventually I would come across this situation but my solution did not play out as I thought it would. So this dude comes in the shop covered in prison tattoos, for the most part they were actually done well. So we get to talking and he said his reason for coming in is to have some things redone, just gone over he says "brighten them up" I believe is the term he used. So I ask to see what he wants done. The first one is an old Cleveland radio station logo, the other is an iron cross with a giant blazing red swastika in the center. Now our shop is in the hood, so it took balls for him to even walk in there. My solution for this problem in my head was to quote a high price in hopes they would walk away. If it is not already apparent, I don't want to do this tattoo, strictly based on the content, and a promise I made to my self to never do anything overtly hateful that may have a negative impact on the client or others they may see it. So my query is if I refuse to do it I am refusing to do my job, which he is allowed to be mad at me about because I am condemning him for his beliefs. I am not there to judge I am there to provide tattoos. O, I forgot to mention, he accepted the price on the count that the shop he was at just before quoted him even higher than I did and said he would come and see me Saturday. That's today, shit.