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What the hell was I babbling on about. The tattoo is on the inside of my shin

I dont really care what this thread is about. I like this picture. Like in a pervy way. yes.

We children of the 80's call the Q-Bert cubes

YEP

Hadn't seen a thread for this?.. saw the page yesterday on facebook, can't wait to see it - https://www.facebook.com/TattooNationMovie "New Feature Documentary Film, Coming October 2012 Tattoos used to be a sign of rebellion. A middle finger salute to the rest of the world. Outlaw bikers got tattoos. Sailors on leave in Singapore got tattoos. Lifers in the joint got tattoos. Now, your mother’s got a butterfly on her ankle and your kid’s sporting a tramp stamp. What happened? How did tattoos go from the renegade, readymade, carney cartoons inked as fast as possible to the art form they’ve become today? That transformation is the subject of the new documentary film, TATTOO NATION. TATTOO NATION tells how a few incarcerated but very talented Chicano artists changed the world of ink forever. It follows three tattoo pioneers, Charlie Cartwright, Jack Rudy and Freddy Negrete, and shows how a new, fine line style using detail and shading to achieve a remarkable realism revolutionized the world of ink. In 1975, Cartwright and Rudy boldly opened the first tattoo parlor in the heart of East LA’s Chicano community. They hired a recently paroled teenager who, while in jail, unknowingly established iconic images that spoke to an entire generation of Chicanos. Freddy Negrete became the first professional Chicano artist employed by a mainstream tattoo parlor - a tattoo parlor that was embraced as a new vehicle for self-expression by the Chicano community in East Los Angeles. For the first time, these legendary figures tell their stories in a feature-length documentary film. Included are other important figures such as David Oropeza and “Chuco” Caballero, winners of many prestigious tattoo competitions. Their victories brought international recognition to the uniquely American approach known as “Black & Grey”. The world of tattoo, and the way we regard tattoo, was forever changed."

Thomas Hooper. Zac Scheinbaum at Saved. Trocchio for sure. John Reardon. Seth Wood. Eli Quinters. Big Steve at FunCity. Maybe even Albrigo. Any of these guys would do awesome, non-hokey satanic/heavy shit in black & grey.

Dan's still a little too Paul Booth for him. Think Baphomet or goat head in a pentragram as opposed to "horror" themed stuff. Now do you see his dilemma? I told him to just get tattoos, like a normal person. Then he laughed and punched me.

Next time this happens just put a Smith Street forcefield around it >_<

Makes me think about that Seaweed song..."They got the cash and look what it's bought them. New hair and ass but their souls are all rotten."

got this santa cruz 13

Did somebody say seventies?!?!?!?! So, these aren't strictly tattoo pix, wasn't posing to show off the work, just pix from back in the day that happen to show tattoos. In two of them, you can see an original first-edition Chicago Tattooing Company tee-shirt. In the first pic, the guy doing the restraining is wearing ink he got in Milwaukee in the early 60's. Can't see it, but he had a tat we called the "jumping green jesus" on his chest that he got when he was 15, probably the single worst piece I've ever seen come out of a "professsional" shop. The other two pix have work by Dale Grande from CTC in them.

Rich or Mike Moses at TTW would probably be way into something like that. Zac Schienbaum is quite the metaltastic little dude as well (we went to the same synagogue as youngins lol)

Oh cool you did a search on the world wide web.

http://youtu.be/1Zb4lKVSjRk Even a nice sword .

Wow. 2 days, 3 pages and 23 posts since someone (ok, I) suggested you post up. I thought you might be eager to show everyone that this one rare problem was all you were up against. I guess you're just too busy at the shop though. If there's only two of you at the shop and between you this can't be answered, I have to wonder what else may be lacking there and what kind of stuff you're so busy sending out the door. On a completely unrelated note, anyone listen to Brother Ali? "Every culture has a right to passage, you wanna bypass it and sell me your practice?"

ewwww i hate that i just called machines "guns" lol

on me, by Chad Koeplinger.

I can't help but read this as "I'm too busy making money to properly learn the craft." Maybe I'm missing it but I don't see what shop you work at and your gallery appears to be empty. Maybe you can shut us all up with the quality of your work. You came for advice and got it and I know for a fact plenty of the people offering the advice you're not willing to accept are coming from a place of experience and offering their clients work of marked quality. If not them, who are you willing to learn from? I may be a hardass about this stuff but it's older than all of us. I count myself blessed to be a part of it and have seen far too many people walk fresh faced into it demanding that it change to suit them. This thing wasn't designed to suit the overly eager and unbending. It was designed to weed them out.

Well, a suggestion for the tattoo... Whatever is like a fly demon. Horseflies and deerflies creep me out.

@hogg, Michael Moses might be up his alley. Or Seth Wood. Can't go wrong with either of those guys doing evil shit. And, I see that other folks have already mentioned them. So...yeah...options!

@Hunter Morrow I still can't tell if I love you or hate you. Also, I agree that Paul's shop has crossed over to the comical side. When I visited a few years ago it reminded me more of the Goths Up Trees blog than of classic horror.

Yeah, he's actually considering Tamara. She does some very cool shit, for sure. And I should've mentioned this earlier, but he's only looking for black and gray. Told ya he was picky!

It'd be fun to see a Baphomet from Dan Santoro over at Smith St. OR, SHIT, see if Ron is in town in NYC that week at Three Kings.. or Tamara or Dan Trocchio.. or anyone there! Or @Perez!

this dude knows

@kylegrey New banger or Katana... Still probably going with the filler haha

everything old is new again.

Definitely looks better there than on either elbow or arse! Next step is to visit Mario in Chicago and have a companion piece done there!

Your description is pretty accurate. Just stick to that. Giving them some internet-forum-style 'neo-tribalism-escher-hooper-xed-jondix-geometric-graphic-PatternDotWork-repetition' type title makes everyone look like a douche. If you insist on getting more descriptive, throw in, or google "OpArt" just so we aren't making up dumb titles for things that already have a perfectly good title outside of tattooing.

Since Oregon has made it law than anyone who wants to obtain a license that has not had one in another state or been a practicing tattooer in a state where there is no licensing has to attend a school and pass an exam to do so, there has been plenty of that hustle going around. Basically you pay 6-8k to a school run by hacks that will feed you the answer to your test as long as you can get 50 victims to come in and pay $20 to get tattooed by you. My friend Derek had already apprenticed for 2 years under my boss, but since the law changed in the middle of his apprenticeship, he had to go to one of the schools, so he went to the cheapest one and I was his victim a couple of times. Peter Pan and the lost boys was the best way I could describe it. But anyhow there is a reputable shop in town that has gotten certified to be a school, the tuition is $20k is to get in (my guess is the higher price is to deter people and not have to teach anyone) and they pick and choose the students and they don't advertise it or put school in their name. Basically he wanted to apprenctice one guy so he played the states game to do so.

20k 6 weeks and youll know everything ;) "guns" and ink not included. additional fees and surcharges will be added upon graduation

Hell yeah! Scored an appt with Jeff Gogue!! Fucking stoked!!

pay me 15,000 and ill tell you all the "secrets" better make that 20,000 i just realized how many there are

Jack from way back .

New piece from Tim S. @ Anthem in Gainesville, FL.

I think they call that heart disease. Or college food. I can never tell the difference.

Start running sprints:

I swear, if I lived in the UK, I'd want to be at Frith Street everyday.

Tattooed by @mario desa @Frith Steet Tattoos. The picture is from Marios Instagram/Frith Street Site. It's on the inside of my thigh.

autodude, consider yourself lucky to have actually gotten some good and even-keeled advice from everyone here so far. These are about the most tame responses I've seen related to a post like this. Take a day off, go get tattooed, step out of your comfort zone, try for another apprenticeship or ask all the questions you can while you're getting tattooed by someone who knows a little more than you or your boss and is willing to give you a hand. Good luck dude.

Its just a matter of respect to the forum. We were asked and agreed to not ask Tattooing related questions and you did. Thats why you are catching so much shit. The sad part is you dont understand, so far all you've done is make excusses of why you asked it. Then you went on further to throw oters under the scratcer bus. Yes some of once were but the reason we still aren't is because we had enough respect of the craft that we are doing to step back and learn properly and ask questions the proper way. On a side note: How is someone gonna get pissed because your going to spend money in there shop. Maybe you need to look at the common denomonator in this picture and adjust the way you ask shit and pay attention to the rules, written or unwritten.

@autosdafe eHow | How to Videos, Articles & More - Discover the expert in you. | eHow.com Yahoo! Answers - Home First Internet Clown School. Academy of Performing Arts in Clowning But you're right. It's not your fault, it's someone else's. Don't feel bad about it.No, it isn't true that "Some people don't take ink" but it is true that some people don't take bullshit.

Are you "tattooing the invisible man"? hahahahahaha. haha. ha. ha. (sigh)

the person who apprenticed you should have no problem answering this question. ask him/her. lol.

The day he died the city planted a tree in front of my house. We named it MCA, he keeps it fresh.

Excuses, everyones got one. . . Coming up in this stuff isn't easy, period. Get used to it, or have a backup plan. Using ignorance as an excuse for anything reeks of laziness... Like a little girl that would rather holler for mom to bring her something to drink, as opposed to getting off her ass and getting it herself... I don't know if you are seeking an apprenticeship, or already in one, or merely a 15 year old who's taking an art class, and simply curious... But the last thing this world needs is another tattooer with a "cool guy know it all attitude", I think we've met our quota for the decade already. While I may respect your opinion, I don't agree with it. ig·no·rant   [ig-ner-uhnt] adjective lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics. uninformed; unaware. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement. Ignorance is ignorance, you are not born with it; but you are the only one that can be responsible for your own level of it.... You are born with an open/blank mind wired individually with infinite space to store and retain anything, you grow up learning the basics, hopefully thus attaining some sort of common sense, a difference between right and wrong. And while you may have been brought up knowing one thing, because that was what you were taught, or not taught, as an individual it's your duty and right to change, and grow as you learn, but it's all up to you... It's not up me to watch out for what people know or don't know I don't want to play defensive driving all throughout the road of life. It's your life, you are the only one that will be accountable for making something of yourself. You can make broad generalized statements about anything, and while you may not be wrong, it doesn't mean know what you are talking about. I'm not trying to be shitty, I'm just being real. I have a soft spot for the new kids in school, and if I didn't, I wouldn't have wasted soo much time responding to that statement if I didn't care about the future and progression of tattooing and tattoos in general. Seriously the last thing this place needs is another uneducated unchecked egotistical tattooer... Remember the following quote: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Mark Twain

i don't think we need to be visually reminded of the guy with the flaming pentagram butthole tattoo...

Here is a pic of mine right thigh. This was about two years ago and I have since pretty much filled this leg with other animals . Not sure what to do on the other side thinking of dragon.

here's the cover of the book.read it if you can. his second book is about his experience as a sniper in cecenia war the guy is also a tattooer and has an exibition in milan going on