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Hey Mask0311, First off, I would love to see everybody sportin great tattoos wherever I go but unfortunately there are fewer people out there "keepin it real" and if I go to WalMart I can see a store full of bad tattoos these days. As far as this guy "blowin you off", it's an old game, as old as it gets with "runnin' the scam", some will spot you and size you up to start something at a high price that they never intend to finish when they have a string of butterflies they can knock out and make more on when you may have already paid in advance, basically you will get shuffled to the rear like you got treated at the 9pm bell. NYC went crazy with those scams when it opened tattooing back up and on this subject I could go on and on. As far as the tooth hurting thing, RUN!!! should have been your instinct and this leads me to tell you that there are tattooers out there who relish a challenge of turning bad tattoos into good ones, so don't worry about having someone else drive over the mess you have started. As far as your expecting better treatment/respect for being home from the military, your absolutely right, the military has always been our staple in tattooing and when everybody's home and the wars are all over we will miss that amount of biz and it goes from steak to pork chops for us tattooers and this is not to mention that there are those of us out here that understand your service to Uncle Sam. So, as far as "keeping it real" and to prove that not all of us are like this disgrace to our trade I will fix and finish your dragon at no charge with the stipulation that you provide the steaks that I will personally grill for you at my country home where I have a rifle range that I will provide 500 rounds of ammunition for you to shoot through my legally owned and registered machineguns after we are finished with the tattooing, on this deal you have my word. Your only hitch is to make it by land sea or air to Illinois and provide the bovine. It can be fixed and finished and picture posted to this thread should you come through on your end of this bargain and I mean all of this most sincerely. I can't do this for every person that's received your treatment or I would work myself into the poorhouse but this is my offer to you. Thanks for your service and I apologize for the hack who misrepresented our trade and culture and I hope to hear from you. Sincerely, -Hawk- of Hawks Tattoo's

I got this Baphomet head from Tim Lehi last month. Why? Easily my favorite tattooist, and I think he understands what I am going for. He has tattooed me a few times and always gives me suitable tattoos for me, like he knows me, ha.

Thanks Alanna. Scott's granddad was named Henry, and my grandma was named Adeline, and they were our respective favorite people.

David, I'd probably make you nuts, I intentionally overuse awesome all day long. It's actually intentional, it's like a personal joke between me and myself, I do know that it drives some people crazy. It's almost like how some people judged and discounted me 25 yrs ago when I got my nose pierced, I know that some people make a judgement about me for saying "that's totally awesome" all day long. Got to keep the haters away somehow. I also like to say hecka. You should try it, just for one day, you might find that you also enjoy the awesome lifestyle.

Wardrobe malfunction?

this isnt a slang term but i thought it was funny when a guy came in and "hey !, How much for sleeves?!...........FREESTYLE!!

Then that's all that matters. No need to defend yourself on the internet to people you've never met and probably never will....

Guns N' Fuckin' Roses. Not only is Appetite For Destruction one of the best albums of all time, the band name makes a cool lookin' tattoo... in my opinion of course :D

I will have to try it. It sounds awesome.

JoKno I may be wrong but your post sounds like you feel somewhat entitled. ---- best shop wants two years of art training While art school is not a necessity, a lack of ability can often be seen in a portfolio. Do you think this is an unreasonable request? ----next best shops wanted $5000 and 2 years of unpaid training time Do you think they should just teach you at their expense and supply you with equipment free of cost and then allow you to practice on their customers -- doing substandard work while profiting from it as well? -----the cheapest wanted $2000 paid in advance Should they teach you, a stranger, I'm assuming- without any commitment ---- Really? $2000-- how much was your EMT training. -----next shop said they don't hire apprentices because they just steal everything You don't think that your walking in to a shop and expecting them to teach you at no expense to you coming and going as you please because of your limited time doing shitty tattoos on their customers amounts to anything but stealing? -----next, the drunk asleep on the floor Maybe he was pretending so you would go away? -----next, flea market guy You shouldn't be getting any money,YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TATTOO! Perhaps you expect him to pay for all of your supplies , teach you at no cost - tomorrow- and then give up 1/2 of that 6x9 space that you scoff at? And last but not least --- the people of the great state of South Carolina have been getting tattooed for years --- do you know how? They drive. They cross county lines. Perhaps you should go to a university and then law school - ask them if you could attend it for free---- provide legal services while attending and keep all the money you get paid. They can supply your text book,briefs, research material, maybe even a new laptop --- also at no expense to you ---- so that you can get your law degree and rewrite the ordinance in Aiken County! Sound reasonable? Really?

Okay, I'm just gonna say it, Cars was better than Cars 2.

what the hell is clunge? sounds even worse than "gash"

the thing about tattoos is that the tattoo does not belong to the tattooer, but to the person who has been tattooed, and it is your body. some people might be pissed off if you had someone else finish their work, and lots of people might not want to finish someone else's work. i wouldn't finish that tattoo because it is a total mess and i wouldn't want to be involved in something that i think is not going to look good in the end. unless i knew you and liked you. or unless it was really slow in winter and i needed some money.

Anyway if anybody has bothered to read this far I guess my real dilemma/question is "When is it acceptable to find a new artist to finish my work?" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ when he said "his teeth hurt and he had to run out and get his medicine 8 hours after your appt!

how about traddy tatty. makes me think crabby patty

my horror story is that i never apprenticed or tattooed out of my house. i lied about having years of experience and got hired at a shop and started tattooing the general public for money in a shop my very first day. it was awful, i couldn't ask for help because i didnt want to give away that i didnt know what to do. i didnt use rubber bands for my first couple of tattoos and even when i started using them i didnt know why i just saw that everyone else was using them. my first tattoo was "ranch industry" written in 1 inch old english and it took me almost 5 hours. every tattoo i did was lined with a 3 but looked like it had been tripled lined with a 14 round because i kept going over the lines thickining them in an attempt to "clean" them up. when asked why i was doing the outlines so thick i claimed that i was also a graff artist and that that was the style.

My wife and I went to this yesterday: SF MOMA Artists Gallery: The Unruly Art of Ed Hardy. Really incredible stuff, much of which I'd never seen or only seen in books. He had lots of tiger depictions, too--always a plus for me. Anyone else here seen the show?

My pleasure, Bill! What brings you to SF, if I may ask? We have mutual acquaintances and I have some of your product in my skin (man, that sounded weird).

The theater I go to has a little device that you can check out from the box office that's like a remote. It's buttons alert the ushers of projection problems, talking, etc. Someone won't shut up, you click a button, usher comes in and tells them to be quiet. Me? I have the manager's number in my speed dial. Honest to god. I take my movie watching experience seriously.

Haha, yes it rhymes with "plunge". I only say it because it sounds just a little less ridiculous than the word "vagina" when said in a Geordie accent! Actually, it doesn't. We just all sound hilarious either way.

Couldn't agree more Pat. I don't understand how people generally don't seem to understand that you're supposed to shut up in the cinema. Once I went to see some cheesy crappy horror film with a friend, and despite it being an 18 cert. film, I'm pretty sure we were the oldest people there. We didn't even find out what the film was about, and my friend almost got hurt in a fight that ended up taking place next to her seat. We may have got our money back, but we didn't get the afternoon back! Lesson learned, though: never go to the cinema on a Saturday afternoon, even if you have been busy through the week.

Hawk, you are a scholar and a gentleman, who also apparently owns automatic weapons. It'd be incredible to see this all come to fruition, hope it does!

I'm still trying to figure out if it rhymes with plunge...

I'd only ever seen a couple Kore Flatmo tattoos that Lochlan had shown me. Intrigued by Scott's recent interview with him, I checked out his website... Damn! Homie does some amazing work. Here's some skull jammers that I was stoked on

Usrula, First off, thank you so much for this piece! Scott never did give me a clear idea of how to thank you, and I wanted to first double check that I'd be thanking the right person! But I love, love, love this embroidered piece! I've never put it on anything, kinda want to keep it pristine, but Scott has his on his daily bag. I'll post pics of those when I get a chance. Anywho, thank you, I love it.

Ha ha I thought only my wife said "clunge" .

got this from Ben Grillo last month...

Still not completely healed, but here are those English roses that Stuart Cripwell put on me last week (photo taken just after he put 'em on): English Roses by Stuart Cripwell, Spider Murphy's - Tattoo Gallery

Heres my latest, done yesterday by Jordan at Frith Street Tattoo, London. Eagle on my wrist and a couple of flower fillers. [/img]

depends on who youre dealing with really... personally I draw EVERY tattoo the night before or the morning of the tattoo or sometimes i draw it on the client with markers when they get there as do a vast number of top notch tattooers that i know do as well. I've been drawing for 30 years and drawing for tattoos 5-7 days a week for 15+ years. so when it seems like i drew your tattoo in 15 minutes, really i drew it in 30 years and 15 minutes as Bob Ross would say. There are tattooers who can work on a simple design everyday for a week and have it suck and there are tattooers that can draw the most complex and large designs in 5 minutes and create an amazing tattoo. its all relative. like i said it really depends on who your working with. everyone works differently.

In defense of your tattooer I have done the same, many times. I take notes during my consultation with my customer--- but because I find that the closer to the appt time we get the more likely the client is to change their design. I do my final drawing just a day or so before the appt. At the start of each week though I start calling clients in my appt book to confirm their appt and a lot of times what they're getting isn't indicated in my appt book. So I might ask what they're getting or need a reminder

one time when i worked counter at this one tattoo shop i photocopied pictured of myself, the apprentice and the owner and drew icp makeup on them and then replaces some flash on the wall with our juggalo pics.. so anyways mine was my passport photo and some dumb ass icp kids came in and freaked out when they saw mine saying i must be the most hardcore juggalette beccause i actually got my passport photo taken with clown makeup... they then did a couple rap songs for the apprentice and left without getting tattooed...

My grandmother collects clown statues. I told her she was the biggest ICP fan I know. She disowned me.

God damn how could I forget about this one... I always want to reply "and your point is?" to customers at work but I would be pretty much kissing my tips goodbye then.

saw somone online today use 'toos how lazy can you be, just type the extra letters and make it tattoos.. my biggest cringe though is people who spell it tattoo's there's no apostrophe in the word!!!!!!!!!! Learn how to spell your own trade!!! And of course the obvious ones that have been mentioned - tatt gun, leg sleeve, tatted up, tattys.... I think the next asshole who tells me I'm all tatted up might get a dick/vagina punch. Actually I'm gonna also add another.. Don't tell me I'm all tatted up or 'damn you gots all kind of tatts' because I FUCKING KNOW I HAVE TATTOOS THEY ARE ON ME.

I'm currently an apprentice. As far as the shop is concerned, I have it pretty easy. I have a full time job, so I only work nights and weekends. The guys don't treat me like absolute crap, but they are serious about me pulling my weight. I occasionally get shot with an air soft gun or assigned a horrible task to keep me in line, but that's how it goes so I don't mind those. What I consider my worst experiences come from the customers. story 1: We had a walk in one day when the wait was kinda long. She and her male friend decide to wait. The friend went back to use the shop restroom. He was in there a long time and he came out right as I was moving tubes to the back. I heard the door chime, and noticed they had left. This does not bode well. I head back to the restroom, and the toilet lid is down. I lift the lid to see a toilet full of paper. We're talking atleast a quarter of a roll. So I grab the plunger and discover that there is a full deposit waiting under the paper. 20 minute later I finally have the toliet unplugged. It was so bad that at one point I was afraid the plunger wouldn't be enough. And it smelled horrible. About 30 minutes after that they come back in, and they have a bag full of Krystals. I guess he had some room to fill. To top it off, when it's finally time for the chick to get tattooed, she says she's gonna run next door really quick to use the restroom, because her friend says "there's some kinda leak in ya'lls restroom." I was stunned. I said "oh no, our restroom is fine." The dude would not look at me. Story 2: We had a lady come in and decided to bring her 8yr old with her. Everythings going okay, then suddenly the kid pukes, right there at the artist 'sfeet. Then again in the hallway. Then in the restroom, all over the sink and toilet. It was on the mirror, the magazine rack and even the walls. Then she puked once more for good measure in the hallway. Lady stayed to finish her tattoo. I had to fight the urge to hand her the mop. Story 3: I don't even like to think about story 3. It involves a clogged toilet, a bent salad tong, a broken a/c in the shop and a lot of gagging. After the last, my teacher said "what is it with your apprenticeship and toilets? It will all be worth it one day, but damn! that's alot of gross!"

I was so drunk I just noticed this.... almost four months later. Im would have been so down for this, but I have since started my one month of sobriety. I have gotten a belly from all the beer/whiskey and I need to get in shape.

Danny Trejo has some badass tattoos that I would enjoy seeing up close as you can only see the same chest piece in all his films. I swear he's given roles solely for that tattoo. I tried google his back piece but of course everything is his chest piece. There was this one of him checking out Jessica Alba but it's hard to see.....

We eventually didn't do it because we could have fucked up and gotten picked. Then I'd have to get tattooed by Kat Von D.

Yeah, I'm probably going to ask for "faggot shit" next time I get tattooed as well.

Nick, I'm proud to be a tramp, and that was the first spot I chose, long before I ever heard "tramp stamp." Guess it's just in my nature. And I'm pretty sure I'm gonna leave my ribs alone for a long long time.

9 times out of 10 that script is going on the ribs. it all started when the idiotic "tramp stamp" was coined, that screwed up everything. the lower back was a cake walk to tattoo, the ribs suck for microscopic letters