Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Hi this is my first tattoo done on chest in two sessions it's not finished yet there will be one last short session. Head and eyes are not finished my artist left them like that on firts session and told me on second three days later that because healing process started and he can't needle in the same places as he could pull out/tear ink he put few days ago and he needs to finish it in three weeks now. Anyway can you tell me what do you think about that? Pros and cons please. I have a feeling that the area under my chest is a bit empty I'm not a specialist can you please tell me anything you think about his job. Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 A lot of helpful people on this forum. PinkUnicorn 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oboogie Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 You literally just posted this. People have lives and work. You'll get an answer. Anyway, we can't tell a lot from that photo. What do you want us to say? Are you wanting an opinion on the work? PinkUnicorn, JAC1961, Dan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Eijin said: A lot of helpful people on this forum. well sure, if the artist has to add to already tattooed areas for a second session, of course there has to be at least a month between sessions. If that's what you are asking. oboogie 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Sorry having rough days recently. Well yeah basically had one session on friday where he did one half and he left that head,like this and feathers on reaper side. Then as you can see from a different colour tone he finished second half but said that the eyes and those feathers needs to be finished in three weeks otherwise he may mess up ink that he put on friday,I have found this a little bit weird why he could finish tattooing elsewhere but not head and feathers..... Yes any opinion on quality of his job anything to help me understand what he did would most appreciate, I thought that the picture is pretty much clear why hardly to say anything from that picture? Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Some artists will leave important details until the last session in an effort to make sure you come back for the last session. That way they get to finish the work to their own standards. Imho he looks to be average, artistically. Eijin 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Eijin said: Sorry having rough days recently. Well yeah basically had one session on friday where he did one half and he left that head,like this and feathers on reaper side. Then as you can see from a different colour tone he finished second half but said that the eyes and those feathers needs to be finished in three weeks otherwise he may mess up ink that he put on friday,I have found this a little bit weird why he could finish tattooing elsewhere but not head and feathers..... Yes any opinion on quality of his job anything to help me understand what he did would most appreciate, I thought that the picture is pretty much clear why hardly to say anything from that picture? Thanks. well ok , IMO it's not a very good tattoo overall.it looks like a scratcher did it. it's not crisp line work, the shading is not applied correctly, the transitions from one image to another and even within each image is not smooth,there is not enough contrast. sorry,but you asked. Eijin 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, SStu said: Some artists will leave important details until the last session in an effort to make sure you come back for the last session. That way they get to finish the work to their own standards. Imho he looks to be average, artistically. Brilliant thanks. By saying artistically average what exactly do you mean,his skills or perhaps something you would change in desing? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dan said: well ok , IMO it's not a very good tattoo overall.it looks like a scratcher did it. it's not crisp line work, the shading is not applied correctly, the transitions from one image to another and even within each image is not smooth,there is not enough contrast. sorry,but you asked. No worries I rather hear honest opinion than some babbling. It's weird though to hear that as the artist have 25 years of experience. He said that 3rd session is needed to finish this off so I hope a bit that it'll be bettter maybe. Transition from one image to another isn't it caused because there was a gap between two sessions won't that different colour of tone become one ecentually? Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oboogie Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Just because he's been doing it for it for a long time doesn't mean he's good at it. I'm with Dan here. I don't think I'd go back, but that's up to you. Eijin, Gingerninja and Hogrider 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, oboogie said: Just because he's been doing it for it for a long time doesn't mean he's good at it. I'm with Dan here. I don't think I'd go back, but that's up to you. Yes but as you can see the head,eyes and area around feathers are completely not finished how can I get this finished by a different artist? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogrider Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 19 hours ago, Eijin said: Yes but as you can see the head,eyes and area around feathers are completely not finished how can I get this finished by a different artist? Find someone really good at coverups. Not that you want to cover this up, but someone experienced at coverups is probably your best bet for getting this as good as it can possibly be. They won't be cheap. oboogie and Eijin 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 If it were mine, I'd have someone with more artistic talent re-work it - but I'm fussy about my art. There's probably 10,000 tattooists in the US. There's probably only 1,000 that I would consider "good artists". Time in tattooing does not = good artist. oboogie and Eijin 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SStu said: If it were mine, I'd have someone with more artistic talent re-work it - but I'm fussy about my art. There's probably 10,000 tattooists in the US. There's probably only 1,000 that I would consider "good artists". Time in tattooing does not = good artist. I live in UK I have no idea where to look and,when you say not cheap what price about you think about? Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SStu said: If it were mine, I'd have someone with more artistic talent re-work it - but I'm fussy about my art. There's probably 10,000 tattooists in the US. There's probably only 1,000 that I would consider "good artists". Time in tattooing does not = good artist. Off course I understand that time does not always reflect skills but when someone tells me 25 years it's kind of natural way that you get certain amount of experience and skill level. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 I will follow your advice and not gonna visit that artist anymore one more small question when you look this picture are able tell that there is a difference in quality between two sides-reaper and cemetery? Like he has put less efforts doing one of this sides? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 The reaper side is less readable, and it's darker so will be tougher to re-work. Price will depend on several factors that will vary/artist. I'd be prepared for a $2-3000 estimate, and that's not including travel costs. Send us links to potential candidates and we can assist with the search if you like. KBells9 and Eijin 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eijin Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 Sorry for being so green but when I finally get to the rework what should I ask for,what should I tell artist I want to be done..... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbott Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 That is correct that you can not go over on the fresh tattoo and do something else . The tattoo has to be healed first then you can work on it . Every tattoo artist will agree with that . If you had just 2 sessions and you are going to get another one to put everything toghether you shouldn’t slag off the artist because that is very unfair . The tattoo looks amazing so far and it is not finished yet I would suggest not to worry to much especially if you need to stilll catty on and they should by finished off as one piece . One thing I know as tattooed person and artist lover that is very rude to slag of your artist online while he done great work for you in such a short time I would consider that more Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC1961 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, Dabbott said: That is correct that you can not go over on the fresh tattoo and do something else . The tattoo has to be healed first then you can work on it . Every tattoo artist will agree with that . If you had just 2 sessions and you are going to get another one to put everything toghether you shouldn’t slag off the artist because that is very unfair . The tattoo looks amazing so far and it is not finished yet I would suggest not to worry to much especially if you need to stilll catty on and they should by finished off as one piece . One thing I know as tattooed person and artist lover that is very rude to slag of your artist online while he done great work for you in such a short time I would consider that more ∆∆∆ Evidently his artist. 😆😜 Eijin and Hogrider 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbott Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I’m sorry I’m not his artist , but I hate people like him Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbott Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Because he sounds like a dick to me I’m working for customer service I’m just a menager with tattoos but I need to work with people every day that do problem with no reason and if you work for people you would understand Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 wow. oboogie 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 17 hours ago, Eijin said: Sorry for being so green but when I finally get to the rework what should I ask for,what should I tell artist I want to be done..... You'd tell any potential artist what you're original vision was, bring references of other similar art that you love and ask for their honest opinion of a possible outcome. Eijin, oboogie and KBells9 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabbott Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Tbh at the first place you haven’t seen what you were doing ? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/8366-first-chest-tattoo/#findComment-142518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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