Kev Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 My experience has been that the tattoos I have that have the most visual impact are the ones with good amount of skin around them. When I first started getting tattooed about 4 years ago, I was on a mission for coverage. The more time goes by (and the more near-sighted I become :rolleyes:), I realize how hard it is to make out anything in full sleeve pieces with filler unless you're up pretty close. Does anyone else feel it's important to have negative space/skin between your tattoos? MsRad 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hyena Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I am so pro strong silhouette. I've been working on fighting the urge to put bursts and nonsensical background behind everything just to preserve the silhouette. Sometimes it;s difficult, but I find that If I think the image needs some background 9 times out of 10 it's because the drawing is weak anyway. So I redraw. If I do add an element into the background or something, I try to make it add to and preserve the silhouette, not take it away. I fail miserably at it all the time, but I work on it constantly. tatB, AlannaCA, ChrisDowning and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochlan Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I've been enjoying seeing the tattoos Ross Nagle has been doing with the "outline" around some of his tattoos which I think makes it really stand out also with the little amounts of color. Jake, SweetDaddyPatty, luca and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I've been enjoying seeing the tattoos Ross Nagle has been doing with the "outline" around some of his tattoos which I think makes it really stand out also with the little amounts of color. that virgin mary is killer Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario desa Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 i talk people out of backgrounds and useless additions all the time. i see so much garbage online. people just throw every trick in the book in there. or just tack on a bunch of roses around something, it looks awful. just let the image be itself, it has strength on its own. a gypsy head doesn't need blood splatters, a crescent moon, fog, a tree, roses and fake cholo letters all around it. except for a few people, tattooing is in a sorry state creatively. by the way, the outline thing is a SMITH STREET thing, which has now been beaten to death by anybody with a computer. you can't do anything new and cool without vampires sucking it dry. ok, i'm done...haha Kevin Campbell, MsRad, The Hyena and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romance & Worship Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 i like the outline if it works with the design. i think stewart robson at frith st. tattoo did a fine job on this one... i totally think mario is right too, cut out everything that doesn't need to be there. i always find that the tattoos that make a big impact, are simpler and less involved. filler can definitely look cool, when done right. but i prefer the negative space between tattoos, i also think it gives each piece a stronger impact and it adds more of a storyboard effect to the body, which i think reads better. stuart cripwell at spider murphy's executed this perfectly... Tesseracts, peterpoose, The Tig and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 Those leg tattoos are awesome-perfect spacing and I can almost make out everything in the thumbnail. I've seen the "force field" stuff in old flash, but very rarely in old photos of tattooed people (lots of stars and dots for filler though) Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't know how many times I've looked at those legs that Stuart did. That is some of the finest tattooing I've ever seen. The whole thing...it's just so fucking cool. calbee, nicky papers, cibo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 i'm striving to achieve those legs. calbee, AlannaCA, Kev and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky papers Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 i'm striving to achieve those legs. Real Talk. MsRad and calbee 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario desa Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 yeah, i know the forcefields came from old sheets, but bert and the boys picked it up and it was immediately copied and absorbed. boltz told me they kinda did it as an amusing experiment, to see how fast it would be copied. it took two days for some kid in argentina to copy it and post it online haha... Bart Bingham, ChrisDowning and Kev 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibradley Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I think what makes the visual impact is contrast... Whether it be negative space or super brights right up against black. There's more than one way to do it, right? Whether you go for a simple but powerful look, or a complex piece that you notice something new every time you look at it, you can't say that it's wrong... It's just different. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 When I think of a subject as an artist (not tattooer), I choice stuff based on medium-I like pen, ink, and paper for detailed stuff, canvas and tube paint for bigger expressive things. The body is medium and it has it's own characteristics, one of which being aging, shifting, stretching, and wrinkling. I think according to the way most people age, crowded stuff will "blowout" and merge with time and you'll get a saggy watercolor effect. People are obviously free to get as detailed as they want, but I'm talking long run stuff here. Maybe the improvements in ink and machines will change it, but I think it remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romance & Worship Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't know how many times I've looked at those legs that Stuart did. That is some of the finest tattooing I've ever seen. The whole thing...it's just so fucking cool. i finally got to see those legs in person two years ago, in san jose at the convention of the tattoo arts. i could not stop starring! and i wasn't the only one, there was a group of people watching him and stuart. it was weird to have a carnival feeling of checking out the "amazing tattooed man" at a tattoo convention. a truly beautiful work of art. who isn't jealous?!! nicky papers, AlannaCA, megankinsey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Haha, I was there, too. He walked by and my wife and I both did a double take. Great point you make about being at a tattoo convention and having a "Look at that guy! He has tattoos!" moment. DavidR, RockelMan and nicky papers 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrubarb Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 yeah, i know the forcefields came from old sheets, but bert and the boys picked it up and it was immediately copied and absorbed. boltz told me they kinda did it as an amusing experiment, to see how fast it would be copied. it took two days for some kid in argentina to copy it and post it online haha... my one whole arm is forcefields by Bert, Steve, Dan & Eli - I guess I was part of the experiment! When I'm back east I am going to get it finished an have not decided if i am going to leave the negative space go with stars and dots or whatever. But I agree, especially with no color on my arm, that too much background/noise make the images pop less... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petri Aspvik Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yeah, the Stuart leg sleeves are amazing. I want to strive to that outlook myself. This one by Scott Harrison is bad ass also. I dont really like Scott's stuff that much personally, but this owns! This tattoo and the one by Stuart look like Lungfish Feral Hymns album sounds. Images to sounds And btw. About the use of space around tattoos. Check out the Robert Ryan interview in TAM, he talks about that in there. rozone, 49531 and mtlsam 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlannaCA Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 i love this thread becasue i really learned something! i was thinking you had to fill in every negative space or else it was almost llike it would be incomplete. i was not thinking about how it would age and what it would look like. the legs are pretty amazing and what everyone has said totally changed how i was thinking. nicky papers, MsRad, mario desa and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 i love this thread becasue i really learned something! i was thinking you had to fill in every negative space or else it was almost llike it would be incomplete. i was not thinking about how it would age and what it would look like. the legs are pretty amazing and what everyone has said totally changed how i was thinking. this is exactly why this board rules! RockelMan and AlannaCA 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-9742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 My wife and I just booked with Stuart Cripwell. We are stoked! Petri Aspvik, Avery Taylor, nicky papers and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky papers Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 My wife and I just booked with Stuart Cripwell. We are stoked! Awesome dude! I'm gonna try to hit him up @ the long beach convention. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 my one whole arm is forcefields by Bert, Steve, Dan & Eli - I guess I was part of the experiment! When I'm back east I am going to get it finished an have not decided if i am going to leave the negative space go with stars and dots or whatever. But I agree, especially with no color on my arm, that too much background/noise make the images pop less... Just saw this by Simon Erl: I chuckled. Petri Aspvik, Kev and gougetheeyes 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Robson Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 i like the outline if it works with the design. i think stewart robson at frith st. tattoo did a fine job on this one......stuart cripwell at spider murphy's executed this perfectly... Thanks. Although I'm a little embarrassed that my mane came up with the whole forcefields thing, I'm on Mario's side of the fence with this one. I stole that from the old photos of Bob Shaw by Bert Grimm. It's pretty much the only way to cap an arm with web and not fuck up the silhouette. Those legs by Cripwell are an amazing example of how great well-placed traditional tattoos can look. Great design choices, placement and rhythm of negative space. A lesson to us all (especially me!) I like some of Simon Erl's work, but the photo above has to be the ultimate hipster tattoo. Avoiding criticism through irony while embracing the thing you are being ironic about. It's the finger-moustache of the tattoo bloggers. He could have got a "pigs is pigs" tattoo in that space instead. that would have been funny for the rest of his life, without a tiresome explanation of an internet trend. hogg, abees and eisen777 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Taylor Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Thanks. Although I'm a little embarrassed that my mane came up with the whole forcefields thing, I'm on Mario's side of the fence with this one. I stole that from the old photos of Bob Shaw by Bert Grimm. It's pretty much the only way to cap an arm with web and not fuck up the silhouette.Those legs by Cripwell are an amazing example of how great well-placed traditional tattoos can look. Great design choices, placement and rhythm of negative space. A lesson to us all (especially me!) I like some of Simon Erl's work, but the photo above has to be the ultimate hipster tattoo. Avoiding criticism through irony while embracing the thing you are being ironic about. It's the finger-moustache of the tattoo bloggers. He could have got a "pigs is pigs" tattoo in that space instead. that would have been funny for the rest of his life, without a tiresome explanation of an internet trend. I agree with Stewart. I check out this kid's blog, and I enjoy it, but this tattoo really bugs me. I will say that since the kid that has this has a face full of tattoos, the tiresome explanation of tattoos is already a big part of his life. abees and Kev 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Tattoo one of these next to it, BOOM-timeless: Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/764-tattoo-silhouette-and-negative-space/#findComment-10852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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