cltattooing Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 New laws have been passed in NY effective December 12th that will require the used of single use prepackaged ink cups instead of the usual disposable ink caps.To: Senator Carlucci, NYS Department of Health, Governor Cuomo, Assemblyman Zebrowski and whomever else it may concern, This petition is regarding the wording on the new tattoo laws that were passed, bill S1421-2015. The wording regarding single use inks is complicated and may lead to completely unnecessary and expensive measures. The new bill (S1421-2015 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Requires tattoo studios and body piercing studios to use single use needles and inks, to obtain consent forms from customers and to maintain customer consent forms from customers - New York State Senate) defines "SINGLE USE INK" SHALL MEAN A SEALED AND PRE-FILLED PACKAGE OF INK THAT IS ONLY INTENDED FOR A SINGLE USE” https://www.change.org/p/andrew-cuomo-david-carlucci-kenneth-zebrowski-new-york-state-department-of-health-change-nys-bill-s1421-2015-to-allow-the-use-of-disposable-ink-caps-in-tattooing?recruiter=368545516&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink There has been a lot of fuss over this on instagram over the last few days and I feel like this is something worth sharing with the broader tattoo community as it can ultimately affect everyone. Whether you live in the state of New York and get tattooed there, whether you are a tattooer working in the state or planning to travel there for work/getting tattooed, or simply concerned that this law may set a beaurocratic precedent for other states, you should sign this petition. In a nutshell, the state passed a bill that requires all artists to use pre-packaged, single-use packets of tattoo pigment for every tattoo. Most of the concerns with this proposition are outlined in the petition, but basically it will make buying pigments very expensive, limit the quality and options of pigment available for the tattooer to buy, and will ultimately make the entire tattoo more expensive for the collector. While I feel that the health department plays an important role in holding artists accountable for safe work practices, I also feel that at the end of the day they usually have no idea what the fuck they're doing without input from the inside and this bill is no exception. Sign please! We got this! mtlsam, guitguy, UglyButProud and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Signed it. And I know that this has been posted by at least one other member, but it deserves its own thread. Thanks for starting it, @cltattooing. Fala, Iwar and cltattooing 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Signed. I wonder if single-use ink packets wouldn't also create much more waste than disposable caps? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Signed. When I first started getting tattooed I thought it was a bit troubling that tattooing isn't regulated at all where I live. Now I'm glad and hope it stays that way. Fala and chrisnoluck 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltattooing Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 @hogg Cheers! :) @polliwog totally! At least with ink caps, they come in various sizes and you can meter the amount of pigment you'll need for each application, minimizing waste of both pigment and packaging. @Graeme yeah, I mean the health department isn't completely useless, but dynamics like this have been discussed around the tattoo community for at least 20 years. I definitely remember reading old and new articles in tattoo magazines on the importance of sanitary standards and the responsibility of the tattoo community to work with the health department to impart only necessary regulations. Although to be fair, it's not the most attractive responsibility on account of the fact that every person working for the government pretty much just wants money and thinks that because they hold a position in the state that they know what they're doing. Personally, I prefer the door to be more closed than open. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Glad it has it's own thread. I kept posting over and over on IG about this. Probably had someone (or a few) block me. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakme Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Signed. I would hate for this to set a precedent for other parts of the world to follow. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cork Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 This is so crazy. At first I thought it was one of those rumors that exploded and you could snopes it and find out it's really bullshit. Oh boy, it's true. Thank you , Internet, for community exposure. Shit like this would actually land without it. Patrick Bateman and hogg 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marley mission Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 imagine also what a waste of governement the enforcing of such laws entails - what is it gonna be someone's full time job snooping around for those hidden ink bottles what a waste and of course how ridiuclous in the first i wonder if shops and tattooers will just ignore the law anyway i saw one prominent tattooer I follow on IG said he'd go underground before complying with this law anyway - hopefully more rational heads prevail and this gets properly sorted out i work in education so i'm way too used to the uniformed political decision makers destroying my industry just to serve their own agendas in a quest for increased wealth and power as always follow the money trail Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colored Guy Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Signed & posted to FB. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayden Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Yeah I've been reading about this BS. Someone loosely pointed the finger at Eternal, stating that they had just helped put a Texas Ink company out of business.... Anyone have more good info on this? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStu Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Chris ODonnell just posted that he and 2 other artists are physically working with the legislature on fixing the wording. The Govt seems to be open to adjustments that would make sense. Patrick Bateman, marley mission, hfs40000 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetroc Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Signed. Seemingly-innocuous laws like this are just part of incremental efforts by legislators and special interests to ban things they don't like. This has happened in many other fields as well. Patrick Bateman and SeeSea 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltattooing Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Chris ODonnell just posted that he and 2 other artists are physically working with the legislature on fixing the wording. The Govt seems to be open to adjustments that would make sense. Haha O'Donnell just reposted something that Seth Ciferri reposted that the petition starter is working with legislators. I don't think either of those artists are directly involved, although it is killer that someone is actually stepping up to work with the politicians. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Many of you may have seen this but here's an update from Needles and Sins. sighthound and SStu 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyButProud Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 signed! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntTudie Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Question-Don't artists mix inks to make certain colors? If so, would it not be difficult to use the pre-loaded ink caps? I'm a collector, not an artist. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarvelAvengers Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Glad I live in Murica, and not in New York :p Fala 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-119750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sora777 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I signed it as well. I'm a little concerned because I have a tattoo appointment coming up. And I'm worried that the ink won't be of a good quality. I will be asking my tattoo artist about this. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-121628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeIndelible Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 An update. I got an email from Bridget Punsalang today stating that the bill was amended to not require single-use caps. Here's the actual bill, in case anyone wants to read the fine print. The parts in brackets are to be removed from the bill. Section 1. Subdivisions 10 and 11 of section 460 of the public health law, as added by chapter 230 of the laws of 2015, are amended to read as follows: 10. ["Single use ink" shall mean a sealed and pre-filled package of ink that is only intended for a single use] "APPROVED INK HANDLING PROCEDURE" SHALL MEAN TATTOO INK STORAGE AND USE PROCEDURES THAT ARE APPROVED AND DEEMED PROTECTIVE BY THE DEPARTMENT. 11. "Single use needle" shall mean a [sealed and sterile package of a disposable needle] NEEDLE THAT IS STERILE AND THAT HAS NEVER BEEN USED ON ANOTHER PERSON. S 2. Section 467 of the public health law, as added by chapter 230 of the laws of 2015, is amended to read as follows: S 467. Single use tattoo and body piercing equipment. 1. All tattoo studios and body piercing studios [must ensure that single use inks and] SHALL USE ONLY single use needles [are used] AND APPROVED INK HANDLING PROCEDURES in all tattoo and body piercing proce- dures performed in such establishments. 2. Prior to a person receiving a tattoo or body piercing from a licensed tattooist or body piercing specialist, such person and licensed tattooist or body piercing specialist must sign a form confirming that the tattooist or body piercing specialist: EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets [ ] is old law to be omitted. LBD13287-06-6 A. 8671--A 2 [a.] (A) Presented all single use [materials] NEEDLES in a sterile and sealed package, that are to be used during the tattoo or body piercing procedure, to the person receiving such tattoo or body piercing, AND EXPLAINED THAT ONLY APPROVED INK HANDLING PROCEDURES WOULD BE USED; and [b.] (B) Opened all single use [materials] NEEDLES that are to be used during the tattoo or body piercing procedure [including needles, inks and other instruments] in the presence of the person receiving such tattoo or body piercing. 3. A copy of the [consent] CONFIRMATION form shall be given to the person receiving a tattoo or body piercing. The tattoo studio or body piercing studio shall retain a copy of such [consent] CONFIRMATION form for a period not less than seven years. 4. THE COMMISSIONER SHALL MAKE REGULATIONS UNDER THIS SECTION. S 3. Section 3 of chapter 230 of the laws of 2015 amending the public health law relating to requiring tattoo studios and body piercing studios to use single use needles and inks, to obtain consent forms from customers and to maintain customer consent forms for a period of not less than seven years, is amended to read as follows: S 3. This act shall take effect [on the one hundred twentieth day] ONE YEAR after it shall have become a law; PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH MAY MAKE REGULATIONS AND TAKE ANY OTHER ACTIONS NECESSARY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ACT ON ITS EFFECTIVE DATE BEFORE SUCH DATE. S 4. The commissioner of health shall periodically review the regu- lations authorized by section 467 of the public health law to determine if the standards set forth therein are appropriate. S 5. This act shall take effect on the same date and in the same manner as chapter 230 of the laws of 2015, takes effect. polliwog and SStu 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/6503-new-york-state-bill-to-pass-use-of-single-serving-pigment-packets-sign-this-petition/#findComment-123987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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