Mark Bee Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hahaha it's true! I honestly think substantial muscle definition/low body fat takes away from the look of a tattoo. G] If that's the case, then I am a fine looking specimen! Happy days! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugilist Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 If that's the case, then I am a fine looking specimen! Happy days! High five, bro! Mark Bee 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Weder Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's taught me not to tolerate fools as much. "Booze, Blues & Tattoos" sighthound, Mark Bee, joakim urma and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
camusllionaire Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm from Burlington and I get tattooed in Montreal; curious to know who added to your collection. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakme Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I've learned that there are a lot of very generous tattooers out there who donate their spare time to making art for charities and causes etc. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
semele Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think getting tattooed gave me a really intense appreciation for craft, and dedication and hard work. It was a tattooer that convinced me that I could still learn to draw at 25, and that obsession with craft eventually drew me to printmaking and has kept me there. Now I'm thinking of training to become a master printmaker. OnyxRose, Pugilist, hogg and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugilist Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think getting tattooed gave me a really intense appreciation for craft, and dedication and hard work. It was a tattooer that convinced me that I could still learn to draw at 25, and that obsession with craft eventually drew me to printmaking and has kept me there. Now I'm thinking of training to become a master printmaker. I have loved watching you explore this path from afar!!! Tattooing has certainly been a big inspiration for both the dude and I to work on our own art stuff. Being around creative people a lot will do that to you! semele, CultExciter and hogg 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think getting tattooed gave me a really intense appreciation for craft, and dedication and hard work. It was a tattooer that convinced me that I could still learn to draw at 25, and that obsession with craft eventually drew me to printmaking and has kept me there. Now I'm thinking of training to become a master printmaker. I cosign this. Getting tattooed led me down the path to go to art school, mostly b/c I was so encouraged by my friend (who is my tattoo hero) to draw. And well, yeah, here we are. It's never too late to do something you want to do. polliwog, Dennis, motsimus and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchettjack Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 It taught me that once you get one, its impossible to stop! SENT FROM MY LG G FLEX ON THE NOW NETWORK FROM SPRINT!?✌ Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It was a tattooer that convinced me that I could still learn to draw at 25 I never, ever would have guessed this. I sorta figured a lot of the artists on here had been doing this forever because the work looks so accomplished to me. If you don't mind my asking, how did you go about learning? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
motsimus Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It got me travelling across the motherflipping US of A!!! And meeting good people along the way..but seriously I'm drunk again and pretty much everything @Mark Bee said. Mark Bee, CABS, mtlsam and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
semele Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I never, ever would have guessed this. I sorta figured a lot of the artists on here had been doing this forever because the work looks so accomplished to me. If you don't mind my asking, how did you go about learning? I took an intro drawing class at the college where I teach, and HATED drawing still lives, but it got me drawing fifteen hours a week. I picked up a bunch of drawing books too, which were of varying helpfulness, but it's really all just practice and having the patience to work through things that don't look good quickly. I don't think I'll ever have the best technical drawing skills ever, but I started a little less than two years ago and made some solid progress. I think starting late has definitely been motivating, and I know I didn't have the dedication or direction to work like I'm working now when I was in my early twenties. CultExciter 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Tattoos also led me to Buddhism in a roundabout way. I had wanted to try meditation but didn't know how and couldn't find the motivation. Until one night @TrixieFaux & I went to a Jondix art show at this place in L.A.: Against The Stream Buddhist Meditation Society. I came back for their Wednesday night class and have been going ever since. It's pretty inspiring to sit in front of this at class – Aeons-Tulpa | A Solo Exhibition by Jondix – and I'll be bummed if and when they take it down. Now I meditate (almost) daily, went on my first silent retreat, and stopped using drugs & alcohol a little over a year ago. I definitely feel like I fit in there. There’s a very punk rock ethos to what they do there which does not feel hippie-dippy or bullshitty or creepy/cultie in any way. Noah Levine, who started the center, is tattooed head-to-toe by @Scott Sylvia, Eddy Deutsche, Freddy Corbin and some other heavy-hitters. He’s starting to become one of the most influential next-generation Buddhist teachers in America. I like that my koi and dragon tattoos have deeper meaning in the Buddhist tradition though that’s not why I picked those images in the first place. I mostly just liked the look of Japanese style tattoos and the stories behind them, but now they feel as much a part of me as my practice does. Pugilist, SeeSea, hogg and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun1105 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I don't think I ever purchased any art before getting tattooed. I picked up two prints at the Montreal convention. I think I just have a much greater appreciation for creative things in general now. joakim urma and Mark Bee 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugilist Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 @DJDeepFried That is an inspiring and awesome story, and reminded me not to slack on my own very novice meditation practice. DJDeepFried and TrixieFaux 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Bee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 @DJDeepFired @Puglist Meditation was what got me through my MA a few years back. I loved the practice, but have got away from it in recent years. I really should get back to it. Thanks for the prompt! DJDeepFried 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Thanks, @Pugilist & @Mark Bee! I think the number one misconception about meditation – or at least one that I had – is that it's supposed to be pleasant. Like you're all blissed out or you "clear your mind." In fact, it kind of sucks a lot of the time. Your foot falls asleep, your brain is going a million miles an hour when you don't want it to, but that's all part of the practice. I don't necessarily think of myself as a "spiritual" person. For me, meditation is a kind of bio-hacking that makes me feel happier, calmer, etc. And it's shown almost immediate results which is why I keep doing it. But a year plus in of daily practice and it's still really hard to stay focused. My mind still wanders but maybe I'm a little more aware of it now. When you're getting tattooed is a great time to meditate – to kind of lean into the pain instead of trying to block it out. I'm trying to coin a new phrase for us: tattooddists. Maybe tatuddhists. Tattoodists? KBeee and hogg 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugilist Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 It is indeed super difficult, but I think it's good for me to work at things that I suck at. :) DJDeepFried and hogg 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Bee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 @DJDeepFried Its an interesting practice, and you are right. It is not easy. I took to it pretty quickly and went to a daily lunch time meditation. I made it a part of my daily routine, and it made a significant improvement in my quality of life. I like your description of it as a "kind of bio-hacking." That's just about exactly how I would describe it. I'm glad to hear its made such a positive difference in your life! hogg and DJDeepFried 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 For me it's a lot like exercise. I never feel like doing it, but I always feel better after I do. Pugilist and Mark Bee 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessanders Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've met extremely talented artists who have taught me that you can be brilliant in more than one way and opened my eyes to a whole different world I'm now a part of. One of them in particular, who I was going to partner with, did my chest and showed me a lot of things I didn't know about this world. I don't know if I will ever fulfill that idea of being in the industry professionally, but I sure learned a lot and appreciate the art and the hard work behind it more than ever. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 @DJDeepFired @Puglist @Mark Bee - is there a type of Buddhist meditation you are doing I can look up? There seem to be so many I'm rather clueless. Thanks. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 @SeeSea we went to a Shambhala centre. From reading up about the various places offering meditation courses/lessons, Shambhala seemed to be one of the less controversial ones around--for example, the New Kadampa Tradition seems really cultish. The Shambhala approach is deeply rooted in Buddhist meditation but is more secular in approach and they don't seem interested in pushing any doctrines. Their meditation class just teaches you how to meditate, how to sit and in what posture, and so on. Conveniently, the centre is also literally around the corner from where we live. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 What I do is a form of Vipassana or insight meditation. My understanding is that it's very similar to Zen/Zazen meditation, and that one is not better than the other. As opposed to, say, Transcendental Meditation which involves mantras or chanting. Not to slander anyone, but I have heard some bad things about TM – mostly that they want your money, and that it can be very expensive. The place I go, for instance, is by donation only, and no one is turned away for lack of funds. I also prefer the more secular approach. There's certainly nothing wrong with Shambhala. It's one of the biggest if not THE biggest Buddhist organization in North America and probably one of the most mainstream. Otherwise, there's really no wrong way to do it, and the instructions are very simple. Set up a timer, sit on a chair or a mat, focus on your breath – that's pretty much it. There are of course some more advanced techniques to help with posture, focus, etc. I do find it very helpful to sit with a class once a week, which makes my daily practice easier. Plus I like being part of a community and listening to Dharma talks. I also recommend listening to Jack Kornfield's Intro to Meditation podcasts, which I think you can find for free on Dharmaseed.com. (They have an app too.) He's my teacher's teacher, and he breaks it down in a very straightforward and entertaining way. If you tell me where you live, I can maybe also suggest a place. Pugilist 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 @Graeme - thanks for the info. That's what I'm looking for - substance without the kool-aid. @DJDeepFried - I'm in Central New Jersey and work in Maryland. I just looked at that website and will definitely wander around in there. Thanks for the great description. I've heard sketchy things about TM too and I'd randomly looked online, but it's really good to have some recommendations from folks like you to set me in the right direction. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/5645-cool-stuff-youve-learnedgotten-intoetc-thanks-to-getting-tattooed/?page=2#findComment-103664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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