SeeSea Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I've heard that watercolor tattoos and tattoos with no border don't age well (although some look incredible). I like the abstract nature. I gather the top one won't read well after a short time, but what about the second one? It seems like it won't matter is much when the colors fade because there is an outline. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gougetheeyes Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Thoughts? Not really. Diehardonvhs, bugxjuice, daveborjes and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I was in the middle of a really long reply and just said 'fuck it someone else will handle it'. Thanks gouge. exume, daveborjes, suburbanxcore and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This topic has been beaten in the ground on this forum. That bottom one looks like a style someone developed to hide the fact they are a poor craftsman. irezumi, beez and gougetheeyes 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseracts Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I had a painting instructor who does really nice paintings. He's also a tattoo artist. However his tattoos don't look like his paintings at all. There must be a reason for that. Here are his paintings and here are his tattoos. They're different styles and they emphasize different things. I love paint and I love the way paint looks, but human skin isn't like paper or canvas. I don't think it's just a matter of fading, some things look better on a flat computer screen than they look on an arm. It seems to be that the best way to get something that looks like a painting on your skin, is to find a good tebori artist. For example, this bird by Horimasa has really nice subtle color transitions, more like a painting than like most tattoos. I also like how well white comes out with tebori. Dotwork tattoos also look kind of like drawings or illustrations to me, here is one by Valentin Hirsch. Dan, Gregor, graybones and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colored Guy Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I had a painting instructor who does really nice paintings. He's also a tattoo artist. However his tattoos don't look like his paintings at all. There must be a reason for that. Here are his paintings and here are his tattoos. They're different styles and they emphasize different things. I love paint and I love the way paint looks, but human skin isn't like paper or canvas. I don't think it's just a matter of fading, some things look better on a flat computer screen than they look on an arm. It seems to be that the best way to get something that looks like a painting on your skin, is to find a good tebori artist. For example, this bird by Horimasa has really nice subtle color transitions, more like a painting than like most tattoos. I also like how well white comes out with tebori. Dotwork tattoos also look kind of like drawings or illustrations to me, here is one by Valentin Hirsch. The artwork and tattoos in those links are simply stunning. Tesseracts 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 @gougetheeyes - oh well, I thought outlines might have helped. But gee, props to the newbie who figured out big mistake #2. @irezumi - Thanks, the thought counts. tl;dr is better than nothing. @CultExciter - I figured. But after wrestling with the sucky search engine again, I said screw it, let me piss off some folks and ask. Maybe there should be a section here called, "Shit that's been beaten into the ground". @Tesseracts - wow - both are pretty wild. I wasn't looking specifically for birds - they just happened to be two of the first examples I saw that illustrated my question when I was surfing. I wasn't implying I *liked* either one in particular. I was reading about tebori when you posted your tattoo - neat. I really like the transitions - it's more like a painting like you mentioned. Thanks for giving your perspective and giving examples - something to keep in my head for next time. (Oops, did you just put a thought in my head for a third one? O_o) @Colored Guy - agreed. Thanks, all. Tesseracts, CultExciter, irezumi and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 @CultExciter - I figured. But after wrestling with the sucky search engine again, I said screw it, let me piss off some folks and ask. Maybe there should be a section here called, "Shit that's been beaten into the ground" . I have to say that this was a great response and I second your new thread idea. Thanks for making me laugh. Bunny Switchblade, Dan, Zillah and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Part of the problem isn't really the search engine, it's that single threads here go on to perpetuity. That's great to keep particular topics together like the backpiece experience thread, but it's terrible for sifting through search results. "Watercolor" returns a ton of threads (and that's fine) but if every thread has 100 pages and it doesn't tell me which of the 100 pages it's on ..... ugh. And now back to your regularly scheduled program... Dan 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseracts Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Part of the problem isn't really the search engine, it's that single threads here go on to perpetuity. That's great to keep particular topics together like the backpiece experience thread, but it's terrible for sifting through search results. "Watercolor" returns a ton of threads (and that's fine) but if every thread has 100 pages and it doesn't tell me which of the 100 pages it's on ..... ugh. And now back to your regularly scheduled program... Most forums I've been on allow you to either search by thread or search by post. Seems this forum only allows you to search by thread... that's an inconvenience. However you can partially get around that by using Google to search LST. Zillah 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Most forums I've been on allow you to either search by thread or search by post. Seems this forum only allows you to search by thread... that's an inconvenience. However you can partially get around that by using Google to search LST. Well, son of a bitch. site:www.lastsparrowtattoo.com watercolor tattoo Thanks for beating me over the head with something I already knew. But that still won't stop me from complaining that the search engine sucks. ;-) Tesseracts and Dan 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Most forums I've been on allow you to either search by thread or search by post. Seems this forum only allows you to search by thread... that's an inconvenience. However you can partially get around that by using Google to search LST. Use the Advanced Search > Search Single Content Type > scroll down > boom Mark Bee and Tesseracts 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Use the Advanced Search > Search Single Content Type > scroll down > boom Ahh, all the way at the bottom there is the option to display as posts. That certainly helps! Thanks! I'll update my review of the search engine from "sucks" to "annoying". Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I've heard that watercolor tattoos and tattoos with no border don't age well (although some look incredible). I like the abstract nature. I gather the top one won't read well after a short time, but what about the second one? It seems like it won't matter is much when the colors fade because there is an outline. Thoughts? I like that HB a lot(the style),I have also seen a lot of "watercolor" style tattoos that were beautiful IMO. IMO a tattoo without outlines it would hold up fine,being mindful to keep it out of the sun and/or slathered in spf 50. I have some color shading portions of my tattoos that don't have black outlines that have held up just fine.Black outlines can fade & get muddled together after years too,maybe worse than color.(just my opinions) Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseracts Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I was looking at the London tattoo convention websites and I found a couple of watercolor people that aren't terrible. Ivana Belakova on Pinterest The 10th International London Tattoo Convention 2013| Artists | Tobacco Dock | UK Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Price Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I think watercolour tattoos can be really beautiful, I particularly love Lianne Moules work, and I think it can hold up well if it's done right. I'm tempted to get something in that style, and find out first hand how it lasts. Gregor 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 @Nikki Price - if you do, please show! There are so many interesting styles out there my head is going to explode. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Price Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 @Nikki Price - if you do, please show! There are so many interesting styles out there my head is going to explode. I promise i'll show it off plenty if I get it done :) I think i'm gonna end up with quite a mix of styles on my skin, I just love them all, dotwork/realism/traditional/watercolour/japanese, I want them all! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 People worry too much about tattoos holding up over time. Live for the moment and get what you want. Lianne Moule and everyone at Immortal Ink are amazing. Nikki Price 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Price Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 People worry too much about tattoos holding up over time. Live for the moment and get what you want. Lianne Moule and everyone at Immortal Ink are amazing. I agree. Obviously it's a good idea to consider how your tattoo will look in the future, and artists shouldn't put anything they know won't last on peoples skin, but I like to see a bit of experimentation, a bit of a challenge to how tattoos 'should' look. I have a dotwork realism tattoo, and I honestly have no idea what it will look like in 10/20 years, i've never seen anything of that age in that style, but i'm not worried, i'm actually sort of excited to see how it ages with my body. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Everytime a new style of tattooing comes out people say the same thing. Theres a lot of 20 year old biomech tattoos out there that have aged really well and a lot that havent. It comes down to the artist I think and how good they are a their craft. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-88912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bexter Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I think watercolour tattoos can be really beautiful, I particularly love Lianne Moules work, and I think it can hold up well if it's done right. I'm tempted to get something in that style, and find out first hand how it lasts. Lianne Moule's work is so pretty. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4968-watercolors-and-borders/#findComment-89052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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