Tuchaka Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Did a lot of searching on this website and on the web in general, and could not find what i am looking for, i found a lot of what makes a good tattoo....what makes a good artist....what are general tattoo terms ( slang for things related to tattoo'ing )etc... I found everything except what i am looking for there are terms i hear enthusiasts and artists using like negative space, dimension blowouts etc. now i can look up a bunch of these words in the dictionary but the answer might not be related to tattoo'ing at all. What i am looking for is the terms artists use to describe why certain techniques are used to create a 'good' tattoo. The reason i am asking is so i can go into a tattoo shop and discuss what type of tattoo i want and actually understand what the heck the artist is talking about. So is there a sticky somewhere someone can point me to ? In short i really wanna be able to discuss the subject intelligently and understand why there are things that customers ask for that won't come out well because the tattoo won't read well from a distance etc. If i am not making sense lemme know :) Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltattooing Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Haha well what terms do you want to know? Mostly just sounds like art terms, which I know can be really confusing if you are not a visual person. Also no shame in going to your tattooer and being like "look, I have no idea what any of this means, can you explain it to me please?" Tuchaka, beez, Stewart Robson and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 yeah, pretty much what @cltattooing said...leave the techstuff for tattooers to talk about but do not be afraid to ask questions! ask what they mean when they say "negative space" for an example..and have them show you! tattooers are(mostly)nice people! CultExciter and Mark Bee 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatB Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 When I got my first tattoo I was worried about clearly expressing what I wanted. My solution was print examples from that artist's online portfolio so I could point and say I like this style of waves, flowers, koi, etc. Mark Bee and CultExciter 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuchaka Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Ya i have talked to the artist i am gonna see through email and gave examples of the general 'types' of work i am interested in with some pretty broad strokes, thx for the help i will post some terms here i am curious what they mean after i get a list together, my inner nerd likes to do lots of research on subjects before i jump in :) Zillah 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeIndelible Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Maybe find a pictorial reference book for art terms if you plan on getting really into it all. polliwog 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuchaka Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Maybe find a pictorial reference book for art terms if you plan on getting really into it all. Ya probably my best bet since the terms i am talking about apply to more types of art than just tattoo Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-87290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The following rating system will help you become familiar with common art terms as they relate to tattoos and hopefully better communicate your ideas... The Tattoo Rating System: This Tattoo rating system, rates the common elements, which are present in both color or black and white tattoo designs, regardless of style. The design elements principles, we are examining, describe fundamental ideas and aspects about the practice of good visual design. The Principles of design can be thought of as what artists do to the elements of design. How an Artist applies the Principles of design determines how successful they are in creating a work of art. Rating Scale: To provide your rating, one is to provide a numerical rating of each Tattoo Design Element, on a given a scale from zero to ten, where 10 is best or perfect, for extremely rare cases, a higher rank can be denoted such as eleven, while an extreme bottom score would be "zero" 0. Also one can provide comments about each rating area, if there is something that deserves further feedback. The Design Elements which will be reviewed are: • Tattoo Design Element (1): Over all first impressions – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (2): Line work, clean breaks and edges – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (3): Gradients – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (4): Saturation – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (5): Fit to Form – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (6): Over all Artistic Composition – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (7): Harmony, Unity and Dominance – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (8 ): Contrast – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (9): Texture – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (10): Design Balance – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. here is the link to the full review: How to Rate and Review any Tattoo Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuchaka Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 ^ thanks for this , really helpful Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 @Tuchaka I'm sorry man, but that "rating" system posted above you is bullocks. It seems we have had a great deal of bullocks on this board lately. You can't deduce a tattoo's quality down to those elements. Mostly you just need to look at clean lines and solid application. Trying to scientifically deduce it to separate elements based on "ratings" isn't going to get you anywhere. Use your judgement, read a book on art, etc etc. Tattoos are supposed to have a little bit of soul in them. They are not mechanical and they cannot be reduced to a 0-10 rating. This was the first book I had to purchase when I was in university, I'm not saying it's bulletproof, but it'll be more advisable than the above: http://www.amazon.com/Design-Basics-Multimedia-Edition-ArtExperience/dp/0495128457/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1395351100&sr=8-4&keywords=design+basics Diehardonvhs, irezumi, Zillah and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
real meta Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 @Tuchaka I'm sorry man, but that "rating" system posted above you is bullocks. It seems we have had a great deal of bullocks on this board lately. You can't deduce a tattoo's quality down to those elements. Mostly you just need to look at clean lines and solid application. Trying to scientifically deduce it to separate elements based on "ratings" isn't going to get you anywhere. Use your judgement, read a book on art, etc etc. Tattoos are supposed to have a little bit of soul in them. They are not mechanical and they cannot be reduced to a 0-10 rating. Not to mention you need to have an understanding of those principles in order to actually assess them...not very helpful for a beginner. Zillah, Graeme, CultExciter and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 @TuchakaTattoos are supposed to have a little bit of soul in them. They are not mechanical and they cannot be reduced to a 0-10 rating. Thank you. JAllen, CultExciter and Zillah 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Shirley Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 WTF? Now I know everything...Right? The following rating system will help you become familiar with common art terms as they relate to tattoos and hopefully better communicate your ideas...The Tattoo Rating System: This Tattoo rating system, rates the common elements, which are present in both color or black and white tattoo designs, regardless of style. The design elements principles, we are examining, describe fundamental ideas and aspects about the practice of good visual design. The Principles of design can be thought of as what artists do to the elements of design. How an Artist applies the Principles of design determines how successful they are in creating a work of art. Rating Scale: To provide your rating, one is to provide a numerical rating of each Tattoo Design Element, on a given a scale from zero to ten, where 10 is best or perfect, for extremely rare cases, a higher rank can be denoted such as eleven, while an extreme bottom score would be "zero" 0. Also one can provide comments about each rating area, if there is something that deserves further feedback. The Design Elements which will be reviewed are: • Tattoo Design Element (1): Over all first impressions – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (2): Line work, clean breaks and edges – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (3): Gradients – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (4): Saturation – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Design Element (5): Fit to Form – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (6): Over all Artistic Composition – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (7): Harmony, Unity and Dominance – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (8 ): Contrast – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (9): Texture – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. • Tattoo Artistic Design Element (10): Design Balance – (Rating from 0 -10) and or Notes. here is the link to the full r How to Rate and Review any Tattoo Graeme, CultExciter, JAllen and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Bee Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Things have been a little weird around here recently. JAllen, Graeme, Rob I and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Things have been a little weird around here recently. It's going from bad to worse rapidly. Graeme, CultExciter, JAllen and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Hey wait, what happened to Trash Polka? Zillah 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 @Shannon Shirley welcome back, and boy is it a helluva time to be back. JAllen 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameroncrazie80 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's only getting weird around here because of one specific person... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeSea Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I went over to that guy's website. It is annoying. Banners and graphics everywhere, getting in the way of even seeing the content. And the content is pretty lame. Hey, if I write a review of LST, will someone here give me a free tattoo? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 @SeeSea, sure! I'll tattzapp you for free! Mark Bee 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4885-hope-this-is-the-right-place-for-it-looking-for-a-complete-tattoo-terms-sticky-etc/#findComment-88950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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