iamtia Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I have never used numbing cream for any of my tattoos. I'm always able to take the pain (most recent painful spots to date being the elbow and elbow ditch), but because I have super sensitive areas where I'm ticklish or get involuntary twitching even at the slightest touch, I wonder if numbing creams help this at all...? About 8 years ago, I started a pretty large piece right in the center of my back and I could NOT stop twitching no matter how much I tried to relax my muscles. That piece is still just an outline and I've always been afraid of finishing it because of the twitching. :( I would love to get work done on both my ribs in the future and I'm pretty ticklish on those areas as well. Has anyone used numbing creams specifically because they're ticklish? Gloomy Inks 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I don't have any first hand experience with this but I did have an artist recommend using a muscle relaxant like Robaxacet for the ribs. I think the logic is that it will stop you from tensing up, so maybe something like that would help? I didn't end up getting that tattoo so I didn't try it and can't offer my experiences here, but maybe talk with your artist about possibly taking muscle relaxants to help with this? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-81971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
semele Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I've been taking muscle relaxers for my back sessions, and it helps a lot with twitching! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I've been taking muscle relaxers for my back sessions, and it helps a lot with twitching! Which muscle relaxers are you taking? I'm fairly sure you can't get muscle relaxers without prescription in the UK, even mild ones. I'd like to try them. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HettyKet Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 @TaeTae when I still lived in the UK Syndol contained a muscle relaxant, IIRC it was marketed for tension headaches and period pain. Mind, that was 10 years ago so they might have changed the formulation by now, maybe worth a look though. TaeTae 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Thanks HettyKet, I'll check it out Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HettyKet Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Failing that, you might be able to get private prescription for Oxazepam or another benzo. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Could always try I suppose. I had some muscle twitching when doing my thigh, so I am anticipating a lot more as we move to more sensitive areas, knee, shins ect. Cheers. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookysproul Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Muscle relaxers sound like a fantastic idea, and I can't believe it's never occurred to me before. However - be sure and do a test run around a friend beforehand. I've been given a muscle relaxer before - for recreation purposes - that I thought had no effect on me - I remember the whole experience - but from the perspective of the rest of the world I was on another level of wacky insanity. Slapping my face and saying I couldn't feel it and all. tatB and HettyKet 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HettyKet Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I usually take some Oxazepam with me as well as the standard antihistamines and ibroprofen. I've never actually used the 'pam (for tattooing) but knowing I could if I needed to was a certainly helpful when we got to the irritating bit of my elbow. Never tried numbing cream, I thought I'd read somewhere it could cause a temporary and non-advantageous-for-tattooing thickening of the skin? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Used to take temazepam for recreational purposes as a youth can imagine taking it for a tattoo, sure to end in tears.... :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fala Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I've read that numbing cream (when it wears off, or is not applied evenly enough) can make the pain itself seem much, much worse than using nothing at all. I don't know that you'd need a muscle relaxer for the twitching per se, maybe something as simple as taking some magnesium orotate or carbonate/citric acid (ie Natural Calm) would do the trick - keep the muscles nice and calm/relaxed vs a Rx relaxer which is normally used for acute spasms (or recreationally, lol.) Beyond that, you're looking at herb territory if you don't want to do the Rx route. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Magnesium is a good call. I have read about it's therapeutic muscle qualities and most of us are already deficient. The best way to get magnesium is through transdermal absorption. Using it regularly on the area to be tattooed a few weeks before could help with those twitches. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jnvlv Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I took a numbing gel for my back but wore off after an hour or so but the session was 2 1/2 so it was kinda silly BUT it WAS my first tattoo so I guess it helped. I think it's more of a psychological thing When I was getting my arm tattoo, the artist did comment on some twitching I had going on. I didn't even know, but when she told me, it stopped. I was able to make myself aware of it and keep calm I suppose some parts are twitchier than others? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 More nerves more twitches. Legs are the worst for me. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I've had bactine spray whilst getting tattooed , cant say I noticed any difference. My wife said she noticed a difference with bactine. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyeslv Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I've had bactine spray whilst getting tattooed , cant say I noticed any difference. My wife said she noticed a difference with bactine. I had a lidocaine spray and that is the best. Only works after there has been some lining as it need to get into the skin. But after that it's very tolerable. Used it with long sessions where lining and shading/color were involved. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I've had bactine spray whilst getting tattooed , cant say I noticed any difference. My wife said she noticed a difference with bactine. Yes, bactine. I know Jill's used that stuff on me and I believe Horitomo too. I can't say it worked either cuz it still hurts but maybe it makes it hurt just a little bit less. That said, I was still twitching when Horitomo was tattooing me. At some point your body just kicks in defensively even though your mind is perfectly fine with going on and on and on. cvportagee 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvportagee Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yes, bactine. I know Jill's used that stuff on me and I believe Horitomo too. I can't say it worked either cuz it still hurts but maybe it makes it hurt just a little bit less. That said, I was still twitching when Horitomo was tattooing me. At some point your body just kicks in defensively even though your mind is perfectly fine with going on and on and on. I had the exact same experience as you Lance. Both Horitomo and Jill have used it on me, but not sure if it worked or not. Lance 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-82723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomy Inks Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) First off I have to say I can take it, but when the stomach piece started creeping to my ribs, it hurt. And it hurt baaaaaaaad! I guess I always expect pain, but I'm a tad ticklish myself. I'm loath to take away from the whole thing, even the pain, but I'm not one to scoff at people who can't after a while, or at all. We're all different. That numbing cream is expensive though. A tattooer I know came up with the novel idea of using Preparation H. He must have read it online and according to him, when I worked on his hand, it numbed it right up. I can get color in, but the Mom's royal blue would not take, and after grinding it a bit (Mom's is awfully thick stuff, but they've been around forever so they must be doing something right) I had it in solid. So I thought. Three days later it looked like I had no idea what I was doing. Like I was scratching away with no brain at all. Then I figured it out I think. If the Prep H shrinks tissues it also closes pores. I realized I wasn't seeing the normal swelling and pores when I worked, which was why I was feeling so odd about the tattoo. I'm a "go by the gut" guy anyway, but I try to be very attuned to the skin and client as well. (READ: I keep a jar of Jelly Bellies at all times.) It was a memorial piece too for his father who had just been buried that day with full military honors, which made me feel extra bad. In my head I'm going, "AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!" Of course on my face was just a look of sheer terror. The moral? If you need the numbing cream, by all means get it. I'd never mock you. But leave the Prep H in the back of the bathroom drawer. Edited January 31, 2014 by Gloomy Inks Dumbness. On my part. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-84512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I am using tattoo numbing cream (5 % lidocain) in my shop, but only on some spots that I know could make problems if I have to work 2 to 3 hours. Problem with numbing cream is that there is bigger possibility for ink to run out or even not to stay, so you have to dig deeper or you have to rework tattoo. Other thing about tattoo is that is swallows more if that it usually would. And third of all, had to be applied hour before you start work, first you have to massage one layer in the skin, and then put thick layer over and wrap it with plastic, so air would not get in and it has efect for hour, or hour and a half... Till now, when I was using it, it did hep. It does not numb completely but it does make work easier. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-84817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jnvlv Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I used some numbing gel on my first tattoo on my back and I guess it worked but definitely wore out after about an 1hr or 1hr 1/2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4615-numbing-cream-for-involuntary-twitching/#findComment-84856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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