Dave Sobel Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 HAHA, you'd have to pay me to do the whole thing, but the discussion around 16:00 about successors is pretty interesting. He says that until three years ago, he had a successor (Horitoshi II) lined up, but that the successor did not abide the rules of the family and was expelled. Then, he had a Horitoshi III lined up, but that this potential successor had no intention of leading the family. So, he has decided that they will elect a Horitoshi III democratically between him and his three oldest "sons." The ideal successor, he says, has to be good at tattooing, but also a man of character. He has to be mild-mannered because he (Horitoshi I/the family) has various domestic and international relations to maintain, and dedicated to the family. In another really interesting bit of the interview, at around 24:00, he says his "family" differs from other families in that his relationship with his "family" members is really one between father and son rather than master and apprentice. The apprentices start as such, but after spending some time apprenticing and being deemed worthy based on character, they become his sons. That is why they call him "Oyaji" (Pops) rather than "sensei." Despite this, in the most unfortunate case, he says, an apprentice/son left the family after six years. Finally, towards the end, Horitoshi expresses his devotion to the preservation of tebori as a Japanese tradition. He says that ultimately, he is teaching his apprentices to maintain tradition. The Horitoshi Family, in Japan, he says, is the family most dedicated to tattooing as a Japanese tradition. Machines could be used for lining, but shading has to be done by hand to preserve tattooing as a Japanese art. He doesn't think tattooing will be accepted in Japan anytime soon, but maybe in fifty years, Japanese people will have a more "casual" attitude toward it. When was this documentary made? I knew a tattooer in LA that was part of the Horitoshi Family in the mid 90's. And this story sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmakaya Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Slightly different topic, can anyone give the accurate name's for the different suits depicted here - Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Slightly different topic, can anyone give the accurate name's for the different suits depicted here - Here's my stab at it. Let's start at the top row from left to right: Gobu sleeves (five tenths) with hikae (chest plate), Shichibu sleeves (seven tenths) with hikae, classic munewari with gobu sleeves and thighs or basically a gobu munewari, next is a variation of the munewari with hanzubon (shorts) where the inner thigh is completely filled in with tattoo work, full body suit or donburi soushinbori with nagasode (long sleeves), the back piece diagram is kame no koh (turtle back) then the last suit is a shichibu munewari (seven tenths). dharmakaya, gougetheeyes, daveborjes and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Here's my stab at it. Let's start at the top row from left to right:Gobu sleeves (five tenths) with hikae (chest plate), Shichibu sleeves (seven tenths) with hikae, classic munewari with gobu sleeves and thighs or basically a gobu munewari, next is a variation of the munewari with hanzubon (shorts) where the inner thigh is completely filled in with tattoo work, full body suit or donburi soushinbori with nagasode (long sleeves), the back piece diagram is kame no koh (turtle back) then the last suit is a shichibu munewari (seven tenths). Give that man a prize! gougetheeyes, TaeTae, Iwar and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaeTae Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Here's my stab at it. Let's start at the top row from left to right:Gobu sleeves (five tenths) with hikae (chest plate), Shichibu sleeves (seven tenths) with hikae, classic munewari with gobu sleeves and thighs or basically a gobu munewari, next is a variation of the munewari with hanzubon (shorts) where the inner thigh is completely filled in with tattoo work, full body suit or donburi soushinbori with nagasode (long sleeves), the back piece diagram is kame no koh (turtle back) then the last suit is a shichibu munewari (seven tenths). Impressive :cool: ironchef 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffa Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Give that man a prize! Seconded. ironchef 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmakaya Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Here's my stab at it. Let's start at the top row from left to right: Thanks mate, that helps to do some google re"searching". Are there anymore traditional placement / coverage not included here? Trying to know a bit more about this and how to organically grow vs just slapping things in a spot and forcing a cohesive suit. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Thanks mate, that helps to do some google re"searching". Are there anymore traditional placement / coverage not included here? Trying to know a bit more about this and how to organically grow vs just slapping things in a spot and forcing a cohesive suit. I might be wrong but I believe traditional style is to start with a back piece (turtle back) and kind of grow from there. Or plan out a munewari or full body suit unless you want work from different artists. I've kind of pieced my quasi-suit together. Duffa 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmakaya Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That's probably what I will end up like, with a quasi suit... Starting a back piece in half a year or so, small coverup and going till butt. Also koi ok right back / side thigh will need to somehow be built in. Anyway apologies for derailing this thread. Will continue on the more appropriate one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffa Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I might be wrong but I believe traditional style is to start with a back piece (turtle back) and kind of grow from there. You would be correct good sir ironchef and Reyeslv 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-80875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1steaks Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Put a pic up of the beginning of my front piece with Horitomo - http://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/general-tattoo-discussion/15-latest-tattoo-lowdown-page521.html hogg and Anak 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavoz Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I am getting a small tattoo done by Horizakura at the moment. I love how the bars interweave between the foreground and the background. (Edit: I am not getting a tattoo with wind bars, yet.) Hi Fala. Lucky you! I would love to get in touch with Horizakura (just love his style), but he doesn't seem to work in NY Adorned anymore... Could you plz indicate me how I can join him? TXs Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fala Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 @tavoz - He still works at NY Adorned, I suggest calling the shop and inquiring there. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanxcore Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This thread is impressive. This has shown me how little I truly know. Haha. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tavoz Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 @tavoz - He still works at NY Adorned, I suggest calling the shop and inquiring there. Txs! This is great info. I had read somewhere on internet that he was no longer in Adorned, tattooing in his own studio, for choosen customers only... Can I ask you about your experience? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fala Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 @tavoz - shoot me a private message if you want. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-81454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMan Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Slightly different topic, can anyone give the accurate name's for the different suits depicted here - A little late reply, but i just found some more bodysuit information on Horimatsu's website tattooedj, Gregor, DJDeepFried and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-82401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironchef Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 @Fala Slightly off topic but looks like Shinji and his client made it out to the annual New Year's Polar Bear swim in NYC Cork, Gregor, Graeme and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-82485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fala Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 @ironchef - Burr!!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-82507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taaarro Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Looks like Horizakura has Elvis tattooed on his chest? That's amazing. @Fala Slightly off topic but looks like Shinji and his client made it out to the annual New Year's Polar Bear swim in NYC tatB 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-94556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taaarro Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 I wrote as much in the upcoming tattoos thread, but thought it'd make sense to report that I had a consultation yesterday with Horitoshi 1 here. Stoked to get work from a master! daveborjes, Graeme, Fala and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-96503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fala Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Yay @taaarro!!!! taaarro 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-96527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Wow @taaaro! He is the best. taaarro 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-96529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taaarro Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I just had my first tebori session (shading in the hair). I found it hurt less than electric tattooing and it was nice to not hear the buzzing of the tattoo machine. Pleasantly surprised! Graeme, daveborjes, Fala and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-98414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cork Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is he only doing the chest, or is going down your arm? Hey if you happen to get the inside scoop if Horitoshi 1 is coming to the Us East Coast, I know a guy with 2 thumbs who would like that info. Reyeslv, Lance and hogg 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/4406-preferred-tebori-styles/?page=3#findComment-98419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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