SStu Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Wait a sec... Are we talking about random tattoos that appear to be genitals or tattoos that are genitals? The reason I'm asking is because I thought I saw a vagina yesterday but it was apparently a rose... APPARENTLY! It was definitely a vagina inspired rose at the very least. Shunga. Crystal Morey Talks to Dan Sinnes About His Genital Genius | TAM Blog Graeme and daveborjes 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourfutureartist Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 It couldn't possibly matter if you had done the tattoo a thousand times this year alone and shared that same information with a client.....they still can find a way to make it acceptable for them to have this same image. I can understand wanting a small tattoo to get your feet wet, to see what it is all about before committing to large scale work but why would you want such a foolish thoughtless image? People seem so afraid of flash, yet these timeless designs get passed up for the latest pintrest favorites. I'll keep encouraging my clients to use thought and open their eyes to the possibilities, for those who choose not to listen well I have no choice but to execute a clean tattoo and keep taking your money. A fad like any other will come to an end. Tribal, nautical stars, iron crosses, all came and went and "this too shall pass" ha. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsCandyPants Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Shunga. Crystal Morey Talks to Dan Sinnes About His Genital Genius | TAM Blog BAHAHA! Whatever floats one's boat I guess Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colored Guy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Wait a sec... Are we talking about random tattoos that appear to be genitals or tattoos that are genitals? The reason I'm asking is because I thought I saw a vagina yesterday but it was apparently a rose... APPARENTLY! It was definitely a vagina inspired rose at the very least. It's all pink on the inside.... Rob MsCandyPants 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsCandyPants Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's all pink on the inside....Rob Errr, it was a bit more than just the colour lol. some really suspicious shading was happening . My phone camera is broken so I couldn't take a pic Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colored Guy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Errr, it was a bit more than just the colour lol. some really suspicious shading was happening . My phone camera is broken so I couldn't take a pic I was at a fireworks show some years back at Jones Beach, a Grucci show in fact. Before each show, they send up a test shot, to judge the wind, etc. Well, they let this one loose, looked startling like the "pink persuader". Me and my wife looked at each other and cracked up. Guess you hadda been there... Rob Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
traditional111 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Bad tattoos are popular because, generally speaking, you can get them for cheap. For instance, there is a shop here in San Diego that advertises a "tap-out special" for $400. This means you can book the "artist" all day or for as long as you can take the pain for $400. Now, I have never stepped foot in this shop (nor would I), but I see the tattoos from the shop that are included in the ad and they are....well, it looks like something you might get at a "tap-out" tattoo shop. Sad. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
falco4758 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 900% of tattooed people don't know what great work is Shaun1105 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffK Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Groupon. That's why. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Excluding blatant work of scratchers, art is subjective in any form, tattoos included, always has been, always will be. TattooedMumma 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Excluding blatant work of scratchers, art is subjective in any form, tattoos included, always has been, always will be. No, art is not and has never been subjective, and when people say that I can only conclude that they don't know anything about art, haven't spent much time studying it and thinking about it, and that they don't really care about art either. Saying that "all art is subjective" is an admission of ignorance. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 No' date=' art is not and has never been subjective, and when people say that I can only conclude that they don't know anything about art, haven't spent much time studying it and thinking about it, and that they don't really care about art either. Saying that "all art is subjective" is an admission of ignorance.[/quote'] Art is absolutely subjective and to say otherwise is not only ignorant it's arrogant.. Saying that is like saying only redheads are beautiful or only blondes are beautiful.. Get real, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So in your opinion only what you think is art is art? No ones opinion matters but yours? Cause it sure sounds like that's what you're saying and everyone should think the same things are art or aren't art? Please.. Snydcat 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 No, this has nothing to do with what I think or like, and everything to do with the understanding that all art forms have limits, conventions, techniques, histories, people who have excelled with that medium, pushed boundaries, developed new understandings of it, etc. This is as true of tattoos as it is of photography, of oil painting, of heavy metal, or of any other art form you can think of and to just instead say that it's all subjective is lazy. I'd also say that this attitude that everything is the same as everything else and all that matters is that you like it/it's meaningful to you is a big reason why people get shitty tattoos. else, SStu, CultExciter and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 ...... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiling.politely Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 If art was truly subjective, critics wouldn't have a job, Vasari's work as a painter would be as respected as Michelangelo's, and the lady selling kitten shrinky dinks at the flea market would exhibit with Pollock, Rembrandt, and Hirst. That being said, those shrinky dinks might have a bit more technical appeal than some of Pollock's work, or Hirst's spin paintings. HaydenRose 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 If art was truly subjective' date=' critics wouldn't have a job, Vasari's work as a painter would be as respected as Michelangelo's, and the lady selling kitten shrinky dinks at the flea market would exhibit with Pollock, Rembrandt, and Hirst.That being said, those shrinky dinks might have a bit more technical appeal than some of Pollock's work, or Hirst's spin paintings.[/quote'] Because I ALWAYS agree critics.. They never give the thumbs up to a bad movie or thumbs down to a great movie.. <Insert art form of choice> Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiling.politely Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'm not referring to pop culture film critics, necessarily. Their job is just to move papers, get web hits, or draw television numbers. I'm speaking more towards criticism of fine art. If you look back, the names that have lasted have done so generally because their work was downright better than the works of others. Just like Ed Hardy was a far better tattooer than Royboy, Michelangelo was absolutely a better painter than Vasari. Hence, Vasari is known for his chronicling the history of art in his time and before, and Royboy is known for being a colorful character, rather than an amazing tattooer. I'm not saying that all opinions, especially contemporary opinions to the work being discussed, are unanimous. However, like I said before, it is an uninformed idea to say that any and all art forms are 100% subjective. DJDeepFried and Graeme 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I'm not referring to film critics' date=' necessarily. Their job is just to move papers, get web hits, or draw television numbers. I'm speaking more towards criticism of fine art. If you look back, the names that have lasted have done so generally because their work was downright better than the works of others. Just like Ed Hardy was a far better tattooer than Royboy, Michelangelo was absolutely a better painter than Vasari. Hence, Vasari is known for his chronicling the history of art in his time and before, and Royboy is known for being a colorful character, rather than an amazing tattooer.I'm not saying that all opinions, especially contemporary opinions to the work being discussed, are unanimous. However, like I said before, it is an uninformed idea to say that any and all art forms are 100% subjective.[/quote'] I agree with this 100% I got a sailor Jerry design last Sunday and like traditional tattoo designs.. I also like some newer style stuff like my artists wife does although her work may never become timeless etc etc its still great work and she is still a very talented artist IMO. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Of course art is subjective -- up to a point. But there's an objective aspect as well that has to do with technique and mastery of craft. General consensus has something to do with it, as does staying power -- works that stay relevant through the ages. Critics have their place in society too. The good ones can deepen our appreciation and understanding. They know their history, can provide context, etc. I think all that goes without saying, but here I am, saying it. Back to tattoos. I very much dislike this stuff: Tattoo - Fuzi UVTPK and here's a particularly bad example: Like, I "get" it. He's trying to be "naive" and outsider-y. This isn't just some scratcher I'm bashing; he's a well-known guy who commands a high price, is sought after by celebrities, etc. Now look at @embers gem from Bryan Burk: That is objectively better and you need not be a critic to see it, just a pair of functioning eyes. End rant. joakim urma and cltattooing 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Of course art is subjective -- up to a point. But there's an objective aspect as well that has to do with technique and mastery of craft. General consensus has something to do with it' date=' as does staying power -- works that stay relevant through the ages. Critics have their place in society too. The good ones can deepen our appreciation and understanding. They know their history, can provide context, etc. I think all that goes without saying, but here I am, saying it.Back to tattoos. I very much dislike this stuff: Tattoo - Fuzi UVTPK and here's a particularly bad example: [/url] Like, I "get" it. He's trying to be "naive" and outsider-y. This isn't just some scratcher I'm bashing; he's a well-known guy who commands a high price, is sought after by celebrities, etc. Now look at @embers gem from Bryan Burk: That is objectively better and you need not be a critic to see it, just a pair of functioning eyes. End rant. Agreed.. The first pic looks as though he is trying to reinvent the wheel.. I can see why it would appeal to some ppl but I'd prefer the second one personally. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cltattooing Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 FUZI is a great example of popular bad tattoos. I think I wouldn't hate that guy so much if he didn't charge up the ass and put his name in his pieces. I mean, fucking seriously? Way to claim ownership of someone's body who you'll probably never see again. Glad that they could be such a solid stepping stone, bro. DJDeepFried and Scott R 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Fuck, the tattoos in the link look like shit.. I'd like to withdraw my last comment please.. ;) DJDeepFried 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDeepFried Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Agreed.. The first pic looks as though he is trying to reinvent the wheel.. I can see why it would appeal to some ppl but I'd prefer the second one personally. Ha-ha. I don't think he's trying to reinvent the wheel as much as he's saying, "Aw, man. It's too hard to learn how to carve this thing until it's round. Maybe I can just charge twice as much and say it's punk rock to have fucked-up, bumpy wheels that don't roil." TrixieFaux, cltattooing and Graeme 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsp0t Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Ha-ha. I don't think he's trying to reinvent the wheel as much as he's saying' date=' "Aw, man. It's too hard to learn how to carve this thing until it's round. Maybe I can just charge twice as much and say it's punk rock to have fucked-up, bumpy wheels that don't roil."[/quote'] Hahaha see my last comment^^ Sadly I made the first w/o using the link.. Dudes a hack.. The tattoos in that link suck, flat out. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slester Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I don't personally like FUZI's stuff, but he's background as a graffiti artist and his style there helps me to 'understand' why his stuff looks the way it does. Many of my graffiti painting friends claim that they would get tattooed by him, and some of them are actually tattooers who understand and do what we here, think of as good tattooing. His background and the fact that a good portion of his clients probably are writers aswell, explains why he writes his one next to his tattoos. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/3754-why-are-bad-tattoos-so-popular/?page=8#findComment-73854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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