metalmancpa Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Now that my wife has ordered me (well, sort of) to add to my eagle because Gunnar's piece overwhelms it and she feels it needs more size and whatever else to make it pop more, I'm thinking of adding a snake to it. Since the eagle is in striking position, I am hoping to find an artist that can wrap a snake (cobra probably) around the eagle with the snake looking at the eagle, and then add background to bring it to approximately the same size as Gunnar's. I don't believe this would be a coverup, but it would be an addition (if there is a difference). I'm only assuming this is doable. So I guess my question is, can what I'm thinking be pulled off by the right artist (currently searching for one), and I really don't want to travel too far again due to the added cost. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
reverend1 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hmm, I am not a tattooer and have no idea, but I would assume that it might be difficult to add to the eagle to make it look like one integrated piece. Then again, I might be totally wrong. The best thing might be to add a really strong piece maybe with a overall theme to tie them to together. Like I said I have no idea just me thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Just put some more tattoos around it. A picture would help visualize options. jayessebee 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Just put some more tattoos around it. A picture would help visualize options. I probably have 1.5"-2" around the eagle to work with to have an end product that is comparable in size to my other arm. I honestly get a little confused when reading about coverups. I always thought you could just add to a tattoo so I didn't think it would be difficult. But then I read more and I get vibes that it wouldn't be easy, that I would have to do a cover up. I really don't want to do anything with the eagle itself - just want it incorporated into a "new" piece. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I probably have 1.5"-2" around the eagle to work with to have an end product that is comparable in size to my other arm. I honestly get a little confused when reading about coverups. I always thought you could just add to a tattoo so I didn't think it would be difficult. But then I read more and I get vibes that it wouldn't be easy, that I would have to do a cover up. I really don't want to do anything with the eagle itself - just want it incorporated into a "new" piece. you can always add stuff around it. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Russ Abbott emailed me back. Said doing coverups really isn't his thing. He would schedule me for a new tattoo when he guest spots at Off The Map next year, but I really am not looking for a new one, just an addition to the eagle. I can see where an artist wouldn't want to coverup a tattoo he/she didn't work on as then it wouldn't be their original piece of work. Guess I either leave it alone, or take my one shot when I go back to Hawaii next year and let the original artist do something. Just not sure yet. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikePie Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It's not a bad tattoo It is the bestest tattoo ever. ;) No really don't sweat it just get more tattoos and you wont notice that one metalmancpa 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 It's not a bad tattoo It is the bestest tattoo ever. ;) No really don't sweat it just get more tattoos and you wont notice that one I'll never live my 1st tattoo excitement down. :) Oh well. Still would like to add a snake to it - just going to keep looking. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flores Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Russ Abbott has a very different style than your tattoo. I think you might be better off looking for a more traditional tattooer with less stylized work. I really like Russ Abbott's tattoos but I don't think he would be right for this. I am not sure where you are located, but I am sure there are some guys who do eagles and snakes that could help you out. Jack 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Russ Abbott has a very different style than your tattoo. I think you might be better off looking for a more traditional tattooer with less stylized work. I really like Russ Abbott's tattoos but I don't think he would be right for this. I am not sure where you are located, but I am sure there are some guys who do eagles and snakes that could help you out. I'm in Massachusetts. I'm also considering Gunnar again, as in the end that would bring more tattoos closer togther in coloration etc. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flores Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I'm in Massachusetts. I'm also considering Gunnar again, as in the end that would bring more tattoos closer togther in coloration etc. Gunnars stuff is more stylized than Russ Abbott,but If he will do it I say go for it, cause obviously you seem to like that style and since you've been tattooed by him before maybe he would be more open to the idea. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Russ Abbott has a very different style than your tattoo. I think you might be better off looking for a more traditional tattooer with less stylized work. I really like Russ Abbott's tattoos but I don't think he would be right for this. I am not sure where you are located, but I am sure there are some guys who do eagles and snakes that could help you out. david would reworking it be an option? i would think that could be made to look alot better. Reworked eagle and add a snake or just say fuck all and get a panther covering the bird Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flores Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 david would reworking it be an option? i would think that could be made to look alot better. Reworked eagle and add a snake or just say fuck all and get a panther covering the bird I think if you wanted to add a snake at the very least you have to add some more black shading in the eagle to try to make it look more like one tattoo. There is only so much you can do, as you can't really change the existing line work, but I think it could look a hell of a lot better than it does. I would say try to fix it up a bit and put super bold tattoos around it because he doesn't want to cover it. Covering it with a big crawling panther might work, but would be hard judge exactly how not seeing it in person. But I fear you would not be able to leave enough skin to not make it look like a black blob, but maybe a panther with some roses, make the arm more colorful. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 I think if you wanted to add a snake at the very least you have to add some more black shading in the eagle to try to make it look more like one tattoo. There is only so much you can do, as you can't really change the existing line work, but I think it could look a hell of a lot better than it does. I would say try to fix it up a bit and put super bold tattoos around it because he doesn't want to cover it. Covering it with a big crawling panther might work, but would be hard judge exactly how not seeing it in person. But I fear you would not be able to leave enough skin to not make it look like a black blob, but maybe a panther with some roses, make the arm more colorful. Interesting. As I had stated before, doing a coverup/addition is something I'm not well versed in. Your opinions are very helpful in guiding to decide what I ultimately do. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 This is probably a stupid question, but when it comes to adding onto a tattoo (which I am still assuming is termed a coverup), should I be looking for an artist that is a known specialist in doing coverups as opposed to finding an artists that says they will but may be more of an original artist? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flores Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This is probably a stupid question, but when it comes to adding onto a tattoo (which I am still assuming is termed a coverup), should I be looking for an artist that is a known specialist in doing coverups as opposed to finding an artists that says they will but may be more of an original artist? I think if you find a artist whose style you like who is willing to do it you should go that route, this might be hard as it seems that the style of tattoos you seem to want vs what this tattoo is aren't really in the same realm. I don't know how I would feel about a person who says they specialize in coverups. Regardless of how well they can cover a tattoo, most tattooers I know would rather not be involved in a coverup, or have to rework other people's work. A good tattooer may not be excited about this project, but will give you an honest opinion on whether they can or would be willing to fix it and ultimately that is what matters. hogg 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmancpa Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 I think if you find a artist whose style you like who is willing to do it you should go that route, this might be hard as it seems that the style of tattoos you seem to want vs what this tattoo is aren't really in the same realm. I don't know how I would feel about a person who says they specialize in coverups. Regardless of how well they can cover a tattoo, most tattooers I know would rather not be involved in a coverup, or have to rework other people's work. A good tattooer may not be excited about this project, but will give you an honest opinion on whether they can or would be willing to fix it and ultimately that is what matters. Thanks for the information. Russ Abbott emailed me back and said he would only do a new piece on me as he doesn't do covers or add-ons (he doesn't like doing them). Gunnar emailed me back tonight and said he'd be happy to add a cobra/snake to the eagle. I really only planned on having two tattoos, so I'm not ready for a new one from Russ (never gave any thought to where, plus I have no new tattoo ideas). I have some faith that Gunnar's addition may not look like my original Gunnar piece. I think a good artist can do work that isn't within their stereotype (Gunnar and I talked about that). A lot of artists, as good as they are, get pigeon-holed into a style, yet they probably could do other styles just as well. But since they're "known" for a particular style, people continue to come and fill up his time slots with a particualr style (or least in the majority). Graeme and David Flores 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-49995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Flores Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 @metalmancpa glad it looks like it's going to work out for you. I was never really worried about whether either of these guys could pull it off, in general it's just hard to find people willing to work off other peoples tattoos, especially people that stay pretty busy as it is. My only prediction is your idea of stopping after this tattoo isn't going to happen. hogg and SStu 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2935-thoughts-on-adding-to-my-eagle-tattoo/#findComment-50104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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