Lochlan Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This is something that goes around the various social media networks (facebook, myspace, friendster, etc) every few months and I always enjoy reading others. Today is the first time I have taken part as I was tagged and also daily hit shuffle first thing in the morning everytime i turn on my computer and figured this could be fun on here. So enjoy.... (1) Turn on your MP3 player or music player on your computer. (2) Go to SHUFFLE songs mode. (3) Write down the first 25 songs that come up--artist and song title--NO editing/cheating, please. 1) Have a Drink of Water by Johnny Cash 2) I Wanna Be A Bear by Descendents 3) Breaking Point by Vietnom 4) The Leaving Song Pt2 by AFI 5) 21st Century Digital Boy by Bad Religion 6) The Lettered Edged in Black by Johnny Cash 7) Low Buck by Sore Thumbs 8) Days of the White Owl by The Nerve Agents 9) No Fear by Agnostic Front 10) Groove Holmes by Beastie Boys 11) Bop 'Til You Drop by the Ramones 12) Wait and See by Stiff Little Fingers 13) Can't Wait by Hepcat 14) Still Searching by Madball 15) ???demo song rough mixed??? by Pressure Point 16) Put Your Weight On It by The Aggrolites 17) Your Warning by The Nerve Agents 18) No Way To Live by The Forgotten 19) Big Bang by Bad Religion 20) Only Entertainment by Bad Religion 21) Skater Dater by U.S. Bombs 22) Golden Gate Fields by Rancid 23) Bad Raligion by Bad Religion 24) Liberate by H2O 25) Police and Thieves by The Clash Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perez Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I always liked this game... 1) Karate - Gasoline 2) Insted - For the First Time 3) Germs - The Other Newest One 4) Braid - Lucky To Be Alive 5) Red Fang - Whales And Leeches 6) Uncle Tupelo - Sin City 7) Chavez - Hack The Sides Away 8) Shudder To Think - Shake Dog Shake 9) Fury - Ressurection 10) Converge - Love As Arson 11) Government Issue - Man In A trap 12) Trail of Dead - Totally Natural 13) Sloppy Seconds - Runnin From The CIA 14) Beck - Lost Cause 15) Leatherface - Sour grapes 16) Man Man - Ice Dogs 17) Kanye West - Can't tell me nothin' 18) Red House Painters - Have You Forgotten 19) Nirvana - Sliver 20) Man Is The Bastard - Alone with Labor 21) Jerky Boys - Mattress King 22) Unanswered - Social Insecurity 23) 76% Uncertain - Softee 24) Asschapel - Until The Day We Die 25) Roman Candle - Another Summer Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight-Lines Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 1.) 45 Grave - Party Time 2.) Pretty Girls Make Graves - Speakers Push The Air 3.) Blood For Blood - Enemy 4.) Johnny Cash - Stripes 5.) Lucero - In Lonesome Times 6.) Social Distortion - I Was Wrong 7.) Killing The Dream - Four Years too Late 8.) NWA - Straight Outta Compton 9.) Mogwai - Superheros of BMX 10.) Chuck Ragan - Wash My Feet In The Waves 11.) Set It Straight - These Walls 12.) Misfits - Skulls 13.) Gaslight Anthem - The War (Lucero Cover) 14.) Elliott Smith - Needle In The Hay 15.) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Curse of Millhaven 16.) Sheer Terror - College Boy 17.) Neil Diamond - Cherry, Cherry 18.) All Bets Off - Dismantle 19.) Bury Your Dead - Top Gun (i know...) 20.) MF Doom - One Beer 21.) Born/Dead - Years of Death 22.) High On Fire - DII 23.) Hoods - West Coast World Wide 24.) Faith No More - We Care A lot 25.) William Elliott Whitmore - Old Devils Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 1.) 45 Grave - Party Time2.) Pretty Girls Make Graves - Speakers Push The Air 3.) Blood For Blood - Enemy 4.) Johnny Cash - Stripes 5.) Lucero - In Lonesome Times 6.) Social Distortion - I Was Wrong 7.) Killing The Dream - Four Years too Late 8.) NWA - Straight Outta Compton 9.) Mogwai - Superheros of BMX 10.) Chuck Ragan - Wash My Feet In The Waves 11.) Set It Straight - These Walls 12.) Misfits - Skulls 13.) Gaslight Anthem - The War (Lucero Cover) 14.) Elliott Smith - Needle In The Hay 15.) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Curse of Millhaven 16.) Sheer Terror - College Boy 17.) Neil Diamond - Cherry, Cherry 18.) All Bets Off - Dismantle 19.) Bury Your Dead - Top Gun (i know...) 20.) MF Doom - One Beer 21.) Born/Dead - Years of Death 22.) High On Fire - DII 23.) Hoods - West Coast World Wide 24.) Faith No More - We Care A lot 25.) William Elliott Whitmore - Old Devils dcostello I don't know you but I really like your list. Pretty Girls Make Graves alongside NWA alongside Hoods alongside Chuck Ragan's solo stuff (and plenty of other good stuff). fuck yeah and Perez- god I haven't listened to Uncle Tupelo in ages. Gotta put some of that on. Still Feel Gone is a great album. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 1 - The Who - Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere (live) 2 - Against Me! - Mutiny on the Electronic Bay 3 - Imadethismistake - Gravediggers on their Deathbeds Pt.2 4 - AFI - The Leaving Song Pt.2 5 - Steve Earle - Warrior 6 - Mariachi El Bronx - Slave Labor 7 - Lil Wayne - Da Da Da 8 - The Black Keys - Howlin' For You 9 - Andrew Jackson Jihad - Evil 10 - Bad Religion - Damned To Be Free 11 - Hoods - Ghetto Blaster 12 - Big Audio Dynamite II - The Globe 13 - Dead To Me - Don't Wanna 14 - The Beatles - It's All Too Much 15 - Caribou - A Final Warning 16 - The Notorious B.I.G. - Big Poppa 17 - Outkast - Love Hater 18 - Latterman - So, It Was A Drag Huh? 19 - Mike Park - From Korea 20 - Alkaline Trio - Southern Rock 21 - Atmosphere - The Abusing of the Rib 22 - Strike Anywhere - 'Til Days Shall Be No More 23 - The Cure - Lime Time [Demo] 24 - Bob Dylan - With God On Our Side (Live) 25 - Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards - Campbell, CA Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Wilson Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 1. Spoon- Eddie's Ragga 2. Camper Van Beethoven- Skinhead Stomp 3. Gorilla Biscuits- Gorilla Biscuits 4. Neil Young- A Man Needs A Maid 5. ZZ Top- Heard it on the X 6. Big Daddy Kane- Ain't No Half Steppin 7. Mastodon- Crystal Skull 8. Velvet Underground- Im Set Free 9. Prince Far I- Dub to Africa 10. Darker My Love- All the Hurry & Wait 11. Common- Chapter 13 (Rich Man vs. Poor Man) 12. Band of Horses- Islands on the Coast 13. Suicidal Tendencies- How Will I Laugh Tomorrow 14. Black Heart Procession- To Bring You Back 15. Van Morrison- Slim Slow Slider 16. Johnny Cash- Delia's Gone 17. Angry Samoans- Somebody to Love 18. William Bell- I Forgot to be your Lover 19. Calexico- The Book and the Canal 20. Alkaline Trio- Southern Rock 21. Elvis Presley- Stuck on You 22. Drag the River- Disclaimer (PTS 2 and 1) 23. Descendents- Mass Nerder 24. Van Halen- Jamie's Cryin 25. Minutemen- This Road Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight-Lines Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 dcostello I don't know you but I really like your list. Pretty Girls Make Graves alongside NWA alongside Hoods alongside Chuck Ragan's solo stuff (and plenty of other good stuff). fuck yeahand Perez- god I haven't listened to Uncle Tupelo in ages. Gotta put some of that on. Still Feel Gone is a great album. Thanks man. Good list as well. Southern rock by trio is a great song. How is mariachi el bronx? Heard it was awesome. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 here's mine: 1. Dream Upon Waking- Jon Brion (Eternal Sunshine soundtrack) 2. Wild One- Iggy Pop 3. Street Justice/Surival of the Streets (live ’85)- Cro Mags 4. Queen of the Minstrels- The Eternals 5. Wound Up- Black Flag 6. State of the Union- Subverts (god I wish that show had been better…) 7. Two Jacks Shitty- Swingin’ Utters 8. Phoenix City- Symarip 9. Stay Warm- Ensign (one of my favs) 10. Chains and Things- B.B. King 11. What You Pay For- FU’s 12. It’s Not a Lie, It’s a Secret- Lemuria 13. You Faded- Time in Malta 14. Moment of Truth- Slapshot 15. Nothing’s Enough-76% Uncertain 16. At Last- Eta James 17. Evening Sun- Strokes 18. Destroy- Trash Talk 19. Cat Fight- Fear 20. The Process of Weeding Out – Black Flag 21. Hey Hey My My (Into the Black)- Neil Young (Live Rust version) 22. Triumph of Life- Fucked Up (Couple of Tracks version) 23. Locked Out- Warzone (!) 24. Cherry Oh Baby- Eric Donaldson 25. Take A Wake- Monster X Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 1. Spoon- Eddie's Ragga2. Camper Van Beethoven- Skinhead Stomp 3. Gorilla Biscuits- Gorilla Biscuits 4. Neil Young- A Man Needs A Maid 5. ZZ Top- Heard it on the X 6. Big Daddy Kane- Ain't No Half Steppin 7. Mastodon- Crystal Skull 8. Velvet Underground- Im Set Free 9. Prince Far I- Dub to Africa 10. Darker My Love- All the Hurry & Wait 11. Common- Chapter 13 (Rich Man vs. Poor Man) 12. Band of Horses- Islands on the Coast 13. Suicidal Tendencies- How Will I Laugh Tomorrow 14. Black Heart Procession- To Bring You Back 15. Van Morrison- Slim Slow Slider 16. Johnny Cash- Delia's Gone 17. Angry Samoans- Somebody to Love 18. William Bell- I Forgot to be your Lover 19. Calexico- The Book and the Canal 20. Alkaline Trio- Southern Rock 21. Elvis Presley- Stuck on You 22. Drag the River- Disclaimer (PTS 2 and 1) 23. Descendents- Mass Nerder 24. Van Halen- Jamie's Cryin 25. Minutemen- This Road can we be friends? DLR era Van Halen next to the Minutemen and Young's A Man Needs a Maid? a great list! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 here's mine:12. It’s Not a Lie, It’s a Secret- Lemuria Their new record is gonna be on Bridge 9. Crazy! Thanks man. Good list as well. Southern rock by trio is a great song. How is mariachi el bronx? Heard it was awesome. That record's phenomenal. I was blown away that a bunch of white boys could make such good mariachi music. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Their new record is gonna be on Bridge 9. Crazy! it sort of makes sense. a lot of hardcore kids are into them (including myself). Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Wilson Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 can we be friends? DLR era Van Halen next to the Minutemen and Young's A Man Needs a Maid? a great list! Thanks, of course. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Kersey Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 1) The Jim Yoshii Pile-Up - Reckless Driving 2) Samhain - Kiss Of Steel 3) The Hope Conspiracy - Departed 4) Mind Piece - The Earth Is Flat 5) Aqualung - Halfway To The Bottom 6) Ben Folds Five - Mess 7) Heavens - Heather 8) Otis Redding - Tramp 9) Justice - Right and Wrong 10) 108 - Holy Name 11) Outspoken - Spark 12) Eric Clapton - Pretty Girl 13) Guns N' Roses - Yesterdays 14) Nas - Play On Playa 15) Right Brigade - Of My Life 16) Desperate Measures - Pushed Away 17) Notorious BIG - Sky's The Limit 18) Iron Age - Arcana Pt 2 19) Quicksand - Divorce 20) Misfits - Night Of The Living Dead 21) Mental - Mental 22) Lungfish - Indivisible 23) Not Sorry - Learned 24) Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze 25) Minor Threat - Minor Threat This is out of 13976 tracks... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-2656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochlan Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 For those who haven't seen these threads on music and tattoos: Band or Song Tattoos Tattoo Muisc What Music do you work to? Punk Rock and Tattoos Song Lyric Tattoos Sammy Winston and The Three Questions Punk, Tattoos, and Fly Fishing CMA Awards Jeremy Luk and The Three Questions ......enjoy...... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 an update on Lemuria! if you haven't heard the new single, you can go here to listen to it. i think it's well worth it and i can't wait to buy the new album. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 This is out of 13976 tracks... funny, i have just 13506. i'm sure i can find 470 songs to catch up to you... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight-Lines Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Hate bragging, but 33808.. no big deal. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsRad Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 yea but D, i don't know you yet in real life. but i do know Dan. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 an update on Lemuria!if you haven't heard the new single, you can go here to listen to it. i think it's well worth it and i can't wait to buy the new album. just preordered Pebble- along with Ceremony's "Rohnert Park" on vinyl cuz I only got the mp3s of it. Stoked! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight-Lines Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 just preordered Pebble- along with Ceremony's "Rohnert Park" on vinyl cuz I only got the mp3s of it.Stoked! RP was super intense. It was like Ruined on Speed. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-3675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockelMan Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 1) Cake - No Phone 2) Godsmack - I stand alone 3) Snoop dogg - From tha church to da palace 4) Motley Crew - Saints of Los Angeles 5) Ice Cube - Why we Thugs 6) 12 Stones - Adrenaline 7) 2Pac - Uppercut 8) Guns N Roses - Welcome to the Jungle 9) Notorious B.I.G. - Me and my Bitch 10) The Mighty Mighty Boss tones - The impression that I get 11) Van Halen - Hot for teacher 12) Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock 13) Cypress Hill - Stoned Raiders 14) Eagles - Hotel California 15) Areosmith - Living on the edge 16) Sting and the Police - Message in a bottle 17) Cake - Short skirt, Long Jacket 18) Ice Cube - Gangster Nation 19) Korn - Twisted Transistor 20) Rage against the machine - Bulls on Parade 21) ZZ Top - Cocaine 22) Audiosalve - Jewel of the summertime 23) Xzibit - X 24) 50 Cent - Disco Inferno 25) Dr. Dre - Whats the Difference. Man that was fun I listened to all them while writing this post. I usually just play my mp3 by Artist LOL I really enjoyed looking at everyone list giving me ideas to music I normally would not have listened to. What a great Topic!! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-5342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaddreamnation Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 1. Johnny Cash - Like a soldier 2. The Pogues - Worms 3. Neil Diamond - Cherry, Cherry 4. Karp - J is for Genius 5. Marked Men - Ditch 6. Thin Lizzy - Do Anything You want to 7. Johnny Cash - If you could read my mind 8. Iron & Wine - Sea and the Rhythm 9. Generation X - Your Generation 10. Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Sex & Drugs & Rock n Roll 11. Three Mile Pilot - Way of the Ocean 12. Modest Mouse - Willful Suspension of Disbelief 13. The Jamaicans - Ba Ba Boom 14. Johnny Davis and the Arrows - The Love i See Now 15. Modest Mouse - Ionizes and Atomizes 16. Burnman - Shaker 17. Smashing Pumpkins - Quiet 18. Hot Water Music - Where We Belong 19. Ray Charles - I Got A Woman 20. The Moment - With This Ring 21. Wilderness - It's All The Same 22. Guided By Voices - Curse of the Black Ass Buffalo 23. Dag Nasty - Can i Say 24. Faith No More - Ashes to Ashes 25. Low - Lion/Lamb Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-5356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deakon Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 1) Acrimony - Hymns to the stone 2) Deadbolt - Edie 3) Beastie Boys - Country Mike's theme 4) Voodoo Glow Skulls - Charlie Brown 5) Shpongle - Shpongle falls 6) Less than Jake - St James Hotel 7) The Cult - Christians 8) Derrick Morgan - Sunday Morning 9) Billie Holiday - My first impression of you 10) Aphex Twin - Ventolin 11) Philadelphia Orchestra - It came upon a midnight clear 12) Bob Marley - War 13) Tool - Crawl Away 14) Arctic Monkeys - Riot Van 15) Nick Cave & Warren Ellis - The Beach 16) Pixies - Isla de encanter 17) Rolling Stones - You can make it if you try 18) Nightmare on Elm St OST - Freddy's Pizza Restuarant 19) Yeah Yeah Yeah's - Runaway 20) Bob Marley - What goes around comes around 21) Judge Dread - Up with the cock 22) Deadbolt - Insecto 23) Zombie Ghost Train- Blue moon of kentucky 24) The Stooges - Down the street 25) The Sabres of Paradise - Planet D. Eclectic. Meh. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-6966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKno Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Bringing back an older thread. I just had to jump on this one though. This should interesting with my Ipod. I've got quite the variety. 1. Flight of the Conchords - Think About It 2. Eagle-Eye Cherry - Save Tonight 3. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Bells, Carousels & Time 4. Rage Against The Machine - Killing in the Name 5. The Clancy Brothers - The Jug of Punch 6. Opiate for the Masses - Burn You Down 7. Modest Mouse - Float On 8. Live - All Over You 9. Weezer - We Wish You A Merry Christmas 10. Nashville P***y - Go To Hell 11. Shaman's Harvest - Dragonfly 12. Scars On Broadway - Funny 13. All 4 One - I Swear 14. Jim Sturgess - Revolution 15. The Stranglers - Golden Brown 16. Stephen Lynch - If I had 17. Snow - Informer 18. Mitch Hedberg - Hot Air Balloon 19. Coldplay - Clocks 20. John Valby - Stand Up and Cheer 21. Fergie - London Bridge 22. James Gregory - Road Signs 23. Oasis - Wonderwall 24. Stephen Lynch - Ugly Baby 25. Eve 6 - Nightmare Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-7884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPorter Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 1. Septic Death- Change 2. The Smiths- This Charming Man 3. The Kinks- The Village Green Preservation Society 4. Harley Poe- Time of the Month 5. Lungfish- No False Suns 6. Feist & Ben GIbbard- The Train Son 7. The Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo- Queen's Revenge 8. John Doe & the Sadies- Stop the World and Let me off 9. The Matadors- If you're going to bitch (I'm going to drink) 10. Daniel Higgs- b1 11. The Smiths- Ask 12. The Misfits- Astrozombies 13. Broken Social Scene- Cause = Time 14. John Doe & the Sadies- A Fool Such as I 15. Avett Bros- For Today 16. The Pupils- Track 06 (live) 17. The Devil Makes Three- Gracefully Facedown (Live on KEXP) 18. Van Halen- Everybody Wants Some 19. Tom Waits- I'll Shoot the Moon 20. The Magnetic Fields- The Nun's Litany 21. Crash and the Boys- We hate you please die 22. Daniel Johnston- Masks (Live on the Henry Rollins Show) 23. Burning Brides- Arctic Snow 24. Reptile House- Keelhaul Love 25. Hank Williams- Your Cheatin' Heart Whew. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/247-ipod-or-itunes-twenty-five-shuffle/#findComment-7886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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