Jennifer Stell Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I cam across TattooDonkey.com like 6 months ago when I got a notification about some images being posted elsewhere on the international web.... So, I check it out, ok... NBD just a few photos, then... I notice you can also down load this shit... Then it wasn't until yesterday that Eric Perfect posted some shit up about him having flash posted there and being sold in downloads, only catch is, he didn't post the pics, nor authorize it, or consent.... Three different lawyers and last night I was like ahh, still, even though the lawyers are like it's not worth worrying about, I was freaking out... Our Art work literally is what feeds, clothes, and shelters us... And we bust ass... So this was like another shit nail in the coffin. And this has been the case with not only FLASH, but Fine Art Print Reproductions, Photos of Originals, and photos of tattoos and tattoos being done, as well as crap drawings, and then the creepy family pics people are finding that this site, went in and harvested and downloaded all these pics with noe ones consent or knowing, immediately turnaround upload and post to their site with a high resolution download that anyone can buy take and use, fuck the originator of said image right?...And they did this and had staff reupload, and they knew all along that they had not notified anyone about this... But by posting on their site that is was user created shared database, is completely fraudulent... BUSTED. If you have time, go to that site.... Start keywording any work you may have put online, had someone else put in a blog, etc,,, last name suffices usually... Copy and pastse all this stuff together and then you will need to submit it all back to the company and do it fast before they take everyone shit down so they can claim it was just pulled we had no idea.... I even saw images that had the Last Sparrow Tattoo mark on it, which means they came to this site, and harvested everyones photos... Ours includes... So... Tattoo Donkey and something like this: To: [email protected] From: (YOUR NAME) and EMAIL Subject: DMCA notice, site stealing major content CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] First of all, if you even have lawyers, you should have been told that you do not qualify for "safe harbor" protection under the DMCA. Your site "tattoodonkey.com" is posting thousands of photos of other people and other people's art without any permission, and it is very obvious that you are wholly aware of this. You are not operating in good faith and can not hide behind the DMCA. What are you doing is wholly illegal under US and International law. You surely know that, and your "disclaimer" in no way protects you. Because you are charging for these photos and also filing them under my and other people's trademarks, you are putting yourself up for a great many damages. You are using many pictures stolen without permission of me, from my website, and I would wager that not even one percent of the photos you are using are legal. In fact, I would go so far as to say that every single image on the site is stolen. Your site actually came to my attention because of the vast number of tattoo artists upset at the thefts of their photos and designs. There are few well-known -- or even lesser known -- artists who won't find their material stolen on your site. The following images, and I suspect many others that I have not found, are mine and I insist that they are removed immediately. Attach list of links to images not rightfully posted that belong to you... then send it off... Ahh, I can sleep better tonight, this stuff was fucking with me hard last night. CultExciter, gougetheeyes, Avery Taylor and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Just found several of mine: Fallingapartart Normal I guess I have some emailing to do :mad: Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perez Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Bunch of my shit on there too! bummer. I wish it was easier to just DDOS their site, fuckers. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Bunch of my shit on there too! bummer. I wish it was easier to just DDOS their site, fuckers. It would be kinda funny to do a DDOS styled attack with shitty stick figure drawings. Just find out how their bot pulls all of everyone stuff and load it down with squidpaints drawings! LETS DO IT! Jomester, Kev and Ursula 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FYI there is a tool on google where you can upload a photo and it will show you every place that photo, and any photo that looks like that photo has been posted or stored on the internet Jack 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FYIthere is a tool on google where you can upload a photo and it will show you every place that photo, and any photo that looks like that photo has been posted or stored on the internet Well, dang. I guess I wasn't gonna be able to keep my career as a boy-band backup dancer a secret forever. gougetheeyes and Duffa 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Tinyeye.com Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Tinyeye.com sorry tineye.com it searches for where else the images are. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tammy Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 if you guys want to email or pm me privately I can offer the wording of what my attorney wrote up. also, jennifer...a word of advice and I am giving this to you hoping it will help your case and that you do not take it personally. you should have just had your attorney contact the site. your email does not help your case much. it is not professional and when someone sends me an email without really knowing what they are talking about I ignore them. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPorter Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It would be kinda funny to do a DDOS styled attack with shitty stick figure drawings. Just find out how their bot pulls all of everyone stuff and load it down with squidpaints drawings! LETS DO IT! I could be motivated to do a new version of Squidpants.... - - - Updated - - - sorry tineye.com it searches for where else the images are. I tried to search for a photo that's on OV that I know TattooDonkey has posted. Tineye.com didn't find it anywhere other than OV. Just FWIW Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I tried to search for a photo that's on OV that I know TattooDonkey has posted. Tineye.com didn't find it anywhere other than OV. Just FWIW Yea it's not really exact but can help sometimes. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Stell Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Yeah.. well, between one tattoo artist I am dealing with legally, and another few tax and previous divorce issues, I asked Shannon, I spoke to three attorneys... It's like this, I don't always give a damn about personal shit online, even if it is "Business"... The heart of the matter was, I wanted to warn my fellow peers, and mentors, what the fuck was up... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-39949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmstrating Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I found a couple of mine on there. When I clicked on the images it says page not found. Does this mean they may be back tracking? Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Any update on this? They need to shut these thieves down. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffa Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Damn... there are more than a few friends of mine on there. Looks like I need to send some emails and warn peeps. Cheers for the heads up Jen! slayer9019 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So there's a "delete pic" request form you can click on each pic. Did that and got 5 removed. Tedious, but there's that. slayer9019 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Switchblade Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Photos Mary d'Aloisio took of me at the Baltimore Convention for her blog and Skin & Ink Mag have been on there almost a year now! Mary pulled her blog and page down totally! I did the "delete pic" thing too and about 3 months later the photos were back! I have been figuring anything I post from now on online is potential flash for someone to use and that's the way I am gonna treat it! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Disclaimer: I am not and will never be a lawyer. Please contact you attorney or law firm for accurate information regarding law in your region. Let me shed a bit of light on this situation. I have seen this a lot in the IT world and has become a huge huge problem. On top of this the laws change often as the web is a very new thing and still "like the wild west" Internet IP (Intellectual Property) infringement are a absolute mess right now. The laws are being written by people clueless to how it actually happens, so there end up being good and bad outcomes to this. Under current law (speaking for US citizens and some others), the owner of the IP can make a request to remove the content, which the provider (in this case tattoodonkey). If the "offending content" gets re-added if it is slightly different than the previous version it usually has to be asked to be removed again. This is a serious problem IP owners that are not massive corporations with teams of people dedicated to finding infringing content. (example Warner Brothers actually exceeded its limit for the months removals...it is in the 10's of thousands) The "service provider" is tattoodonkey Key Points: Each limitation entails a complete bar on monetary damages, and restricts theavailability of injunctive relief in various respects. (Section 512(j)). Each limitation relates to a separate and distinct function, and a determination of whether a service provider qualifies for one of the limitations does not bear upon a determination of whether the provider qualifies for any of the other three. (Section 512(n)). In addition to limiting the liability of service providers, Title II establishes aprocedure by which a copyright owner can obtain a subpoena from a federal court ordering a service provider to disclose the identity of a subscriber who is allegedly engaging in infringing activities. (Section 512(h)). In addition, to be eligible for any of the limitations, a service provider mustmeet two overall conditions: (1) it must adopt and reasonably implement a policy of terminating in appropriate circumstances the accounts of subscribers who are repeat infringers; and (2) it must accommodate and not interfere with “standard technical measures.” (Section 512(i)). “Standard technical measures” are defined as measures that copyright owners use to identify or protect copyrighted works, that have been developed pursuant to a broad consensus of copyright owners and service providers in an open, fair and voluntary multi-industry process, are available to anyone on reasonable nondiscriminatory terms, and do not impose substantial costs or burdens on service providers Sources The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (summery) The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 Duffa 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffa Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 @slayer9019 thanks for posting that. I do/have dealt with a few copyright and internet copyright issues in the last few years and this looks like a really good read (yes, I'm a contract/legislation geek if it applies haha) Catch you guys in a few hours when I'm done! slayer9019 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 @slayer9019 thanks for posting that. I do/have dealt with a few copyright and internet copyright issues in the last few years and this looks like a really good read (yes, I'm a contract/legislation geek if it applies haha) Catch you guys in a few hours when I'm done! I thought I was the only one that liked reading long boring papers written for the the purpose of boring people into not reading them. Duffa 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/2399-attention-all-artists-in-the-tattoo-and-tattoo-related-profession/#findComment-40818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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