Tick Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I think, living in the southwest, we actually have a decent understanding, as the swastika is a native symbol. The college in my city used to use the swastika as its symbol. my dad's house up in denver actually has a swastika built into the brick outside on the fireplace (pre world war II construction). I think with a symbol like that you take it on a case by case basis. If someone wants to put themselves out to be judged by others, more power to them (unless they are a nazi piece of shit. then they can just go fuck themselves.... but I think those that subscribe to that kind of a doctrine of hate are pretty easy to pick out of a crowd). After all, being tattooed used to be controversial all on its own. People already assumed things about you, just because you had A tattoo. hugosilva 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 @Kev, interesting point about runes. I saw a guy on the bus a while back who had very freshly tattooed runes on his knuckles, some other black and gray stuff on his hands, and a big celtic choker tattooed around his neck. My assumption was that he probably also had "1488" tattooed on him somewhere, but maybe I'm wrong. hugosilva 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Images are a language; in our subculture, we've adopted this language and some us understand what those images mean on a lot of different levels. I think we also understand how those images can be interpreted by people outside our subculture. I'm reminded of the scene in "Eastern Promises" where Viggo Mortensen has to address the Mafya bosses in just his boxers, so they can 'read' him. Sort of O/T, but cool bonus segment from the DVD: I could take my bus stop analogy to Japan and our western styled tattoos would mean nothing but Gaijin tourists, but a sliver of color peeking out from the cuff of well-dressed Japanese "business" man would worry them more. gougetheeyes, hugosilva and kylegrey 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Freddy Corbin has one on the entire top of his hand. Wow, I've seen that so many times and never realized that's what it was. Sneaky swazzie! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perez Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I have a real sneaky one on the inside of my arm. Kev, jade1955, Bunny Switchblade and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dari Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I don't have time to read this whole thread, although I am glad that it's been brought up on LST. My two cents: I 100% understand that symbol was around and used in several cultures long way before that delusional psychopathic meth head chose it to represent himself and the drugged up soldiers fighting his Blitzkrieg. I understand that it has a powerful meaning, completely unrelated to death squads, extermination camps, gas chambers, mass graves or burning emaciated bodies, but that's what it means to me. No matter how nice the tattoo or painting, even when I want to see past it, it's there for me. Jondix had drawn some beautiful designs incorporation the symbol for my husband, who had the courtesy to ask first, and I had to say no, too much baggage for me. But if it means something completely different for you, go for it. I don't care what the rest of you do with your bodies, but I just can't have it in my own house. Kev, RoryQ, Julio Avila and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lving4today Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Yea I think it'd be hard for me wear that even knowing it may hold a different meaning, the general public probably wouldn't care to find out that meaning. Kind of similar for me would be satanic images or something. As much as I like the imagery and everything, it's not something I want to have to explain. But that's just me Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCanada Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Okay, I asked my Japanese wife what she though about a swastika and her reaction was "temple"... as in a Buddhist Temple. After I showed her the painting Jinxproof has and she said kiss (rock band). I then asked her if she had any connection between the swastika and Nazi's, nope. Could just be that she is ignorant of the past 80 years or that in the east the hooked cross stands for something different. ian, Bunny Switchblade, Perez and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Avila Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sorry folks but hitler fucked it up for everybody from here on out to eternity. Along with that mustache. So I'm not into it at all. Not one bit sleepy mel, beez, hogg and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyeslv Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sorry folks but hitler fucked it up for everybody from here on out to eternity. Along with that mustache. So I'm not into it at all. Not one bit Well said!!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Okay, I asked my Japanese wife what she though about a swastika and her reaction was "temple"... as in a Buddhist Temple. After I showed her the painting Jinxproof has and she said kiss (rock band). I then asked her if she had any connection between the swastika and Nazi's, nope. Could just be that she is ignorant of the past 80 years or that in the east the hooked cross stands for something different. the japanese weren't at war with the nazi's so that could be part of it. i do notice that the iron cross doesn't hold the same level of taboo with it so the german's didn't ruin all the sacred symbols Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugosilva Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/swastika-town_s.jpg file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/coke.jpg file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/edmonton_swastikas_s.jpg file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/coins_01.jpg file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/postcard_02_s.jpg not trying to stir any more shit but this are some of the links that will show,that even in the west in the beginning of the century,the swastika was a symbol of good luck,from cities names,to coca cola used,i do understand that its offensive for some in advance i apologise,i have some tattooed on me,the nazi campaign did quite allot to harm the image of the swastika has a peace and good luck symbol,but that is all it is,people should be actually be looking to the colours used by the nazi,has artists we all know what colour can do,with the red has a deep background white circle and black line,even a good old smiley looks menacing!!!!they played us all!!!!to bad they chose a very old and beautiful symbol!!!peace to all the tribes!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 people should be actually be looking to the colours used by the nazi,has artists we all know what colour can do,with the red has a deep background white circle and black line,even a good old smiley looks menacing Colors have absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about, and has nothing to do with racism or otherwise. Nazis were not the first to pick those colors, they are bold and eye-catching. Just look at any ads, street signage, or even the Coca-Cola company you mentioned. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylegrey Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Those colours also feature heavily in Maori tribal art and a lot of early flash long before the third Reich .However I do know of studies linking the colour red to aggression if its predominant in the surroundings ,hence the reason a lot of gym equipment is of that colour . Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The colours of the Nazi flag are symbolic and very much part of the whole thing - from wiki - " Nazi propaganda clarified the symbolism of the flag: the red colour stood for the social, white for the movement's national thinking and the swastika for the victory of the Aryan peoples over the Jewry" Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irezumi Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yeah, red black & white make a really good color combination. They work great together. Still not racist, or dangerous. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yea I think it'd be hard for me wear that even knowing it may hold a different meaning, the general public probably wouldn't care to find out that meaning. Kind of similar for me would be satanic images or something. As much as I like the imagery and everything, it's not something I want to have to explain. But that's just me As Simone who has some "satanic imagery" I agree. Kinda wish I could move the tattoo but oh well. While to me my tattoo is a montage of dantes inferno by gustave dore, an excellent combo of liturature and art but the general public sees Satan dude. Having a swastika tattoo is like having a devil tattoo on crack...almost anyone will say wtf!?!? lving4today 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yeah, red black & white make a really good color combination. They work great together.Still not racist, or dangerous. yep agreed , but a black swastika on a white circle on a red background is ... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lving4today Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 As Simone who has some "satanic imagery" I agree. Kinda wish I could move the tattoo but oh well. While to me my tattoo is a montage of dantes inferno by gustave dore, an excellent combo of liturature and art but the general public sees Satan dude. Having a swastika tattoo is like having a devil tattoo on crack...almost anyone will say wtf!?!? Yea exactly. I think when people don't understand the meaning behind a tattoo, it works well for a conversation piece. I can't imagine that conversation going well over a swastika unless they were truly open-minded. I just wish random strangers would quit calling my poseidon tattoo "aw it's little mermaids dad!" -____- Iwar, Shannon Shirley and MGblues 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwar Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I just wish random strangers would quit calling my poseidon tattoo "aw it's little mermaids dad!" -____- Backpiece reference anyone? Lochlan, sleepy mel, asradin and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lving4today Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Backpiece reference anyone? Bahaha. Man that pink and those sparkles would sit real tough Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asradin Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Backpiece reference anyone? If only I hadn't started my tiger and panther back piece already.... Lochlan, sleepy mel and chrislj54 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPorter Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 As Simone who has some "satanic imagery" I agree. Kinda wish I could move the tattoo but oh well. While to me my tattoo is a montage of dantes inferno by gustave dore, an excellent combo of liturature and art but the general public sees Satan dude. Having a swastika tattoo is like having a devil tattoo on crack...almost anyone will say wtf!?!? I have Baphomet on my left hand. So unless I'm wearing gloves I pretty much always have to rock the 'uncomfortable looks/questions' risk every time I talk to people. A little kid asked me once if it was "The Devil". Instead of getting all wordy, I said "yeah, because the DEVIL IS COOOOL". He smiled, the little scamp. Even kids love the dark lord. gougetheeyes, lving4today, Shannon Shirley and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer9019 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I have Baphomet on my left hand. So unless I'm wearing gloves I pretty much always have to rock the 'uncomfortable looks/questions' risk every time I talk to people. A little kid asked me once if it was "The Devil". Instead of getting all wordy, I said "yeah, because the DEVIL IS COOOOL". He smiled, the little scamp. Even kids love the dark lord. That is epic! I found the wordy approach gets annoying after about the first 2 weeks of having such a tattoo (at least for me), after that I just say something similar. Thank god for winter!!! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryQ Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Looks like Thomas Hooper has fallen afoul of some of the controversy around this symbol : Anyone else on his newsletter? He posted a picture of himself wearing a new t-shirt with the asian 'repeat pattern' described in this thread, and later sent out an apology message because he got complaints... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1609-the-swastika-symbol-in-tattoos/?page=2#findComment-24895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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