dooktruck Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 graphic designers don't hate helvetica they hate comic sans or insert some other terrible font (here) Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anisya Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 'the people I know' would be the key to my point there....I based my guess on the stories they tell each other. Helvetica is the 'go to font' for 'I can't be bothered to come up with something better' designers. Also your boss will always make you use it when he wants to go safe with a client, no matter how slick and nice your own font would be. But designers I know are not all the designers in the world, although I don't think anyone in the world would even consider comic sans in a serious design. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 @Anisya, if youre a designer, you should watch this. it's interesting, i found the perspectives of some people to be very relatable to tattoo designs. if you really want to do tattoos as stated in your intro, it would be worth seeing a bigger perspective and power in what already exists and how you can use it rather than the constant attempt to reinvent the wheel. http://youtu.be/KRaGDp2WMig Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anisya Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 @JAllen,Oh no, I am not a graphic designer. I study Sound and Video Technology. It includes producing animated graphics and captions, subtitles and such. I am constantly around frustrated people who worked, work or will work in 'media'. And that includes graphic designers (students, lectureres and professionals). There is a lot of grief and a lot of complains....that is why I thought it might be the reason someone would have a Helvetica tattoo....but it seems he might have got it out of love.... Oh, we all watched this film and several other documentaries during lectures, but I am glad you posted it here. And I am taking your advice on board, I am on this blog to learn something, like it or not but you are educating a newbie. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooktruck Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 unfortunately i am a graphic designer...well at least that's what pays the bills helvetica has its time and place and it is not a bad font pretty easy to kern works well for body copy legal etc if all someone is designing are pieces for their book or record album covers then helvetica is sort of boring i guess i certainly wouldn't get a helvetica tattoo though CultExciter, Black Math and Kev 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I too am a designer, and I use Helvetica and Univers when I want to create a Swiss style poster or minimalist layout. It's a beautiful typeface. But the same can be said nowadays for how many companies are using the Gotham typeface. It's gorgeous, but the market is over-saturated with it. It's a fine line, I like to pull in Brockmann, Carson, Timothy Samara, and Bierut as my daily influences. As for a Helvetica tattoo, it's hipster pastiche, whatever, they don't know shit about Thom DeVita. Kev 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Robson Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 @Anisya I'm a little late to the party here and I haven't yet watched the Helvetica documentary so what I say may be covered there. In my opinion Helvetica a beautifully designed typeface (it was a typeface before it was a font) which is why it got so overused by cool-guy graphic designers for a while. Anything visual that is used extensively will be rejected by the generation that follows. But blah, blah, blah... Helvetica is the type equivalent of 'pike style' tattoo lettering. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, it just fucking works. Always readable and because of subtle variations, always appropriate. It can look shitty in the hands of an idiot who thinks its easy and doesn't understand the basics. ...I mostly butted in because the BBC uses Gill Sans, not Helvetica. Another very well designed typeface, digitised exceptionally well for screen use. But very different from Helvetica to a trained (or partially trained) eye. Most 'big corporations' don't use Helvetica. They may use a bold, sans-serif font, but it's rarely Helvetica itself. Comic Sans is one of the few fonts deemed appropriate when designing information for people with learning and/or sight difficulties because the lower-case letters are constructed the same as handwriting. The problem with most graphic designers is they are trying to express themselves instead of communicating in an effective manner. I guess most younger designers now wouldn't even know what a serif's function is. Comic Sans is a fuck-ugly font though. More dumb tattoos now please. hogg 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllen Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 @Stewart Robson, it's worth checking out the documentary. like i mentioned, it has an interesting parallel to traditional tattooing in my opinion. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 @Stewart Robson, you can take the font nerd out of Photoshop.... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anisya Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 @StewartRobson @CultExciter @dooktruck @JAllen And that is excatly why I love this forum. No mindless chit-chat but real conversations. Thank You all. Since it was me who derailed this thread I hope this will get it back on track: Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Robson Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 @hogg as a type nerd I object to your assumption I'd use Photoshop to kern and lead my type ;) daveborjes, hogg, Abellve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abellve Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Hahahaha! Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 InDesign a day keeps the doctor away. I NEED TO FIND A STUPID TATTOO TO POST. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Then you're doing it wrong: Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 this man... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CultExciter Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 This might be the first time in my life when a slice of pizza has repulsed me. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiling.politely Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 at least this one had the decency to try and hide it... Kevin Campbell 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 @Jack its not funny to make fun of aids patients! Jack and CultExciter 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-31899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musashi Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I see pizza tattoos all the time on blogs and whatnot. WTF. Does.Not.Compute. Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-32017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanBurkhart Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I still don't fully understand what a hipster is. By the looks of these pictures I'd like to keep it that way ha Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-32582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I still don't fully understand what a hipster is. By the looks of these pictures I'd like to keep it that way ha i dont either, is this a US thing or do we have them in the UK too? . Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-32683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiling.politely Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 there's a lot of different kinds of hipsters out there... fixie hipsters, conceptual art hipsters, trust fund hipsters, Williamsburg hipsters... it never ends. and they are fairly present in the UK as well. i spent five months abroad at an art college in Wales, and it was about 98% full on hipsters. in London, from what i understand, Shoreditch is a popular spot for them. Duffa and Gregor 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-33030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anisya Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 there's a lot of different kinds of hipsters out there... and they are fairly present in the UK as well. i spent five months abroad at an art college in Wales, and it was about 98% full on hipsters.. Agreed. I didn't know what hipsters were either, but now I can honestly say that not only some of the students but also some of the tutors at my Uni (Manchester, Media City UK) are of the hipster kind. Some are my friends though, so it makes me vulnerable to their logic.... Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-33043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 If you like someone, they aren't a hipster. Hipsters are dirty. always. Kevin Campbell and Anisya 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-33048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Its not new, even 20 years ago we would go to Glasgow art school on a night out and there was plenty of bespectacled cardigan wearers there Quote Link to comment https://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/t/1330-dumb-hipster-tattoos/?page=13#findComment-33073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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